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[20:31:05] LydiaBreakfast: Good Evening tweeps and welcome to the 5/20 edition of our chat. Please introduce yourself and tell us what you do. #editorchat

[20:31:05] milehighfool: And we’re live. Please introduce yourself when you join. #editorchat

[20:31:09] GLHancock: @milehighfool Thanks. How are you tonight? This week? #editorchat

[20:31:49] jennipps: @milehighfool Hey, Tim! Good to see you. BTW…to you & @LydiaBreakfast…just turned in an article to a newsletter featuring #editorchat

[20:31:56] JaneFriedman: Hi everyone – Jane Friedman, Publisher/Editorial Director of Writer’s Digest (F+W Media) #editorchat

[20:32:12] milehighfool: @GLHancock Super busy. Not regretting the blogathon but, wow, it’s tough to add that to my regular writing schedule. You? #editorchat

[20:32:41] jennipps: Hi, all! Jen, fl writer in south Oklahoma writing about health, writing, creativity, plus-size issues, & everything in between. #editorchat

[20:32:42] JMegonigal: Jordana Megonigal, editor in chief for Upstate S.C. business publication (and soon others?) And I’m a GEN-X #editorchat

[20:32:56] ptsaldari: Hello from p.tsaldari #editorchat

[20:33:00] milehighfool: @jennipps Wow. I’m truly flattered, Jen. Thanks for thinking of us. #editorchat

[20:33:06] shortformernie: Howdy! Ernie Smith, Editor of super-awesome tightly edited news site ShortFormBlog: http://shortformblog.com/ #editorchat

[20:33:09] GLHancock: @milehighfool What blogathon or do you mean here and now? #editorchat

[20:33:11] booksandcorsets: Hi all, I’m an editor w/Sterling Publishing, working on branded books and the Hearst magazine lines #editorchat

[20:33:15] LydiaBreakfast: I am your co-host Lydia Dishman, freelance features writer covering business, food, travel and style for a pile o’ mags #editorchat

[20:33:16] BeckyDMBR: @LydiaBreakfast Hey! Checking in from Iow-ay, Land of Windy. #editorchat

[20:33:27] milehighfool: @JaneFriedman Glad you could make it, Jane. #editorchat

[20:33:44] jennipps: @milehighfool But of course! πŸ™‚ After it’s in print, I have OK from the editor to post it online. I’ll let you know when it’s up #editorchat

[20:33:44] shortformernie: But when I’m at work, I totally work at The Washington Post’s Express as a designer and visual editor duder. πŸ˜€ #editorchat

[20:33:47] LydiaBreakfast: @BeckyDMBR Hey Yay! #editorchat

[20:34:06] LydiaBreakfast: @booksandcorsets Fabulous thanks for coming! #editorchat

[20:34:07] dan_miranda: Hello everyone tweeting from a new account to make sure I don’t disturb anyone. You may know me as @timecommander #editorchat

[20:34:38] milehighfool: Your other co-host here. Tim Beyers, Motley Fool tech contributor, blogging at Quicken.com, writing daily. #editorchat

[20:34:40] GLHancock: Georganna, writer/editor/websites for writers; published since 1964; Luddite in electronic clothing. (not really the last one) #editorchat

[20:34:48] hinder: Hi. All. Katie HInderer – editor for teen mag, hip hop mag, and commercial real estate publication. Freelance writer too. #editorchat

[20:35:18] JenniferPerillo: Hi All. Jennifer Perillo, consulting food editor at Working Mother & freelance food writer/recipe developer. #editorchat

[20:35:23] PDXsays: lurking:at .@AboutUs hosting NTEN PDXTech Club: Online Story Telling by Roger Burks, Sr Writer, Mercy Corps. #Editorchat

[20:35:34] marciamarcia: Freelance writer w/ FastCo+, educator, editor, learner, mom, SoMe enthusiast. Thrilled to have a short break to join in on #editorchat

[20:35:35] merylkevans: Content Maven from Plano, TX who writes, edits and plays with words plus a little gamin’ and PR’in. #editorchat

[20:35:37] shortformernie: @dan_miranda Howdy, dude. πŸ˜€ #editorchat

[20:35:57] LydiaBreakfast: @JenniferPerillo Yippee you made it! Now pass out those yummie bytes πŸ˜‰ #editorchat

[20:36:03] JenniferPerillo: I’m doing #editorchat tonight, so pls filter if you like for the next hour.

[20:36:09] LydiaBreakfast: @marciamarcia Hello Marcia thanks for coming πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[20:36:14] sooutdoors: #editorchat Lloyd here from Southern Ontario Outdoors. Writer, author, journalist.

[20:36:28] LydiaBreakfast: @merylkevans Hello Miss Meryl πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[20:36:44] LydiaBreakfast: @sooutdoors Lloyd, so glad you made it – I know the time is a crunch for you #editorchat

[20:37:00] milehighfool: @marciamarcia @merylkevans @JenniferPerillo Welcome, all. #editorchat

[20:37:15] milehighfool: @sooutdoors Hey, you made it. Sorry about the time crunch. #editorchat

[20:37:41] SpecialDee: #editorchat Special Sections editor @sunjournal, Maine, also Arts & Humanities student @usmlac

[20:37:52] milehighfool: @JaySlacks Glad you could make it, Jarvis. #editorchat

[20:38:02] newswise: Greetings everyone at #editorchat – if you need smart news, you should get @newswise http://tinyurl.com/cjl7vw

[20:38:11] JaySlacks: @LydiaBreakfast Jarvis Slacks, writing and adjunct english teacher and I forgot this part: #editorchat

[20:38:13] LydiaBreakfast: @SpecialDee Hello Special Dee πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[20:38:16] ellmcgirt: Heyo! Ellen McGirt, senior writer, Fast Company magazine, coming to hang awhile! I write feature stories, mostly. #editorchat

[20:38:18] JMegonigal: Hey all friends – for 1.5 hrs, filter me, filter me, filter me! (Unless you want to talk journalism!) #editorchat

[20:38:51] JenniferPerillo: @LydiaBreakfast Well thanks for the warm welcome. Doing the dinner dishes during #editorchat.

[20:38:57] LydiaBreakfast: @JaySlacks Brilliant, thanks for joining and lending us your perspective πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[20:39:03] milehighfool: @ellmcgirt Hi Ellen. Wow. Your first editorchat, I think. Glad you could make it. #editorchat

[20:39:14] JMegonigal: @ellmcgirt YAY Ellen! Welcome! #editorchat

[20:39:17] LydiaBreakfast: @ellmcgirt Hooray πŸ™‚ No #utb jokes I’ll be good #editorchat

[20:39:18] SpecialDee: @merylkevans #editorchat I love the “play with words” it’s so functional.

[20:39:34] milehighfool: @JMegonigal Glad you could make it, Jordana. #editorchat

[20:40:04] LydiaBreakfast: So let me just remind everyone that editorchat is for writers and editors, anyone else is welcome to lurk #editorchat

[20:40:10] merylkevans: Another warning… entering a second tweetchat… so you may want to slam http://www.twittersnooze.com on me. #editorchat

[20:40:13] milehighfool: @sooutdoors Don’t we all? πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[20:40:33] milehighfool: Rules coming next. #editorchat

[20:40:37] ellmcgirt: This is my maiden voyage yes! I’m back and forth with my actual editor, so I’ll be off and on a bit. But am so happy to make it. #editorchat

[20:40:47] SpecialDee: @GLHancock #editorchat I am just learning about Luddites and Neo-Luddites in my Science, Technology & Society class.

[20:40:47] JMegonigal: @milehighfool Wouldn’t miss this one for the world!! #editorchat

[20:41:16] GLHancock: 😎 #editorchat

[20:41:21] milehighfool: Rule No. 1 Observers welcome but #editorchat is for those who are, or those who work with, editors.

[20:41:42] milehighfool: Rule No. 2 Stay on topic. #editorchat

[20:41:59] milehighfool: Rule No. 3. Courteous comments, please. (Thank you, sir. Ma’am.) #editorchat

[20:42:00] PDXsays: conceptor | writer | editoir in PDX. work with Brick | mortar biz to come to SoME. and strat up book authors | blog “journalists #Editorchat

[20:42:17] milehighfool: Rule No. 4. Spammers will be electrocuted. (Your computer *is* wired, pal.) #editorchat

[20:42:19] SpecialDee: Little tip for newbies: If you’re using TweetDeck you can follow this conversation in a separate column by doing a search for #editorchat

[20:42:37] milehighfool: Rule no. 5: Refer to the question number when commenting. Q1, Q2, etc. #editorchat

[20:43:07] dawndsokol: I’m a book designer and author…I’m just going to lurk. Hope that’s OK. #editorchat

[20:43:52] milehighfool: @dawndsokol Of course it is. Whatever suits you. Chime in anytime. We try to post transcirpts within a day or two. #editorchat

[20:44:01] LydiaBreakfast: For those of you who didn’t read the post on the topic, we will be discussing the generation gap and its effect on publishing. #editorchat

[20:44:21] cursingeditor: I’m a first-line editor at a Texas newspaper. Just watching mostly. #editorchat

[20:45:03] hotspringer: Just got an error message on #editorchat: “Something is totally wack.” (That was right after @milehighfool did the rules.)

[20:45:09] milehighfool: @cursingeditor I don’t believe it. Not with a Twitter handle like yours πŸ™‚ Thanks for stopping in. #editorchat

[20:45:21] GLHancock: Q?: Are the questions available in advance somewhere? #editorchat

[20:45:26] dawndsokol: @milehighfool Oops, thanks! #editorchat

[20:45:55] hotspringer: (wild applause for @milehighfool!) #editorchat

[20:45:56] hotspringer: (wild applause for @milehighfool.) #editorchat

[20:45:59] JaySlacks: #editorchat One of the best times I’ve ever had was working with an editor. I miss it a lot. More than I thought I would.

[20:46:36] ohmgee: hiya #editorchat. intro: martin gee: art director of oregon business magazine and visual monkey. #editorchat

[20:46:45] milehighfool: Re: the topic. The generation gap is in every workplace but it seems more pronounced in publishing. #editorchat

[20:46:48] mspizziri: Joining #editorchat for the first time.

[20:47:02] shortformernie: @ohmgee Hey dude. What’s up? #editorchat

[20:47:02] jennipps: @GLHancock They’re on the blog at http://www.editorchat.wordpress.com. #editorchat

[20:47:24] LydiaBreakfast: @mspizziri fantastic welcome, please introduce yourself and tell us what you do #editorchat

[20:47:35] merylkevans: @jennipps Hey, Oklahoma! Good to see ya again! #editorchat

[20:47:40] BeckyDMBR: @milehighfool Define generation gap? #editorchat

[20:47:45] milehighfool: @hotspringer Oooooo. What did I do? (Thanks for the applause.) #editorchat

[20:47:50] GLHancock: @jennipps Thanks so! #editorchat

[20:47:53] LydiaBreakfast: @ohmgee hello Martin Gee, thanks for coming again πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[20:48:06] judywriter: Hi. Business journalist currently, longtime editor before I started writing a book . #editorchat

[20:48:17] jennipps: @merylkevans And you too! πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[20:48:45] milehighfool: @BeckyDMBR At the most basic, let’s say Gen Y and Boomers, with Gen X in the middle. #editorchat

[20:49:01] hotspringer: (Beet red.) I was applauding the rules. Got this error message: Something is totally wack. Tried again, and well, you saw… #editorchat

[20:49:10] milehighfool: @judywriter Thanks for joining us, Judy. #editorchat

[20:49:47] ohmgee: @shortformernie chillin’. june issue was shipped today. checkin’ out #editorchat. =) thanks @lydiabreakfast =) #editorchat

[20:49:55] LydiaBreakfast: So the topic: generation gap and its effect on publishing #editorchat

[20:50:02] milehighfool: @hotspringer Ah yes. Our infamous spam electrocution machine. The most fun you can have on #editorchat

[20:50:31] dodgemedlin: Hey all. Mark Dodge Medlin, asst. news editor of The San Diego Union-Tribune, stopping by #editorchat

[20:50:57] milehighfool: RT @LydiaBreakfast: So the topic: generation gap and its effect on publishing. #editorchat

[20:50:58] PDXsays: go to tweet chat to participate RT @LydiaBreakfast: So the topic: generation gap and its effect on publishing #editorchat

[20:51:09] milehighfool: @dodgemedlin Glad you could make it, Mark. #editorchat

[20:51:19] LydiaBreakfast: Q1 is the social landscape of media creating a gap between the old guard and the new school? #editorchat

[20:51:26] jennipps: RT @LydiaBreakfast So the topic: generation gap and its effect on publishing #editorchat

[20:51:31] LydiaBreakfast: @dodgemedlin hey Mark nice to see you again πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[20:51:35] marciamarcia: Tonight’s topic: generation gap and its effect on publishing. Bring it on! #editorchat

[20:51:43] milehighfool: RT @LydiaBreakfast: Q1 is the social landscape of media creating a gap between the old guard and the new school? #editorchat

[20:52:06] LydiaBreakfast: Remember refer to the question number when you respond #editorchat

[20:52:14] jennipps: Q1 – In some ways, I think so. Some of the “old guard” appear to be willing to take on social media but not many from what I see #editorchat

[20:52:33] JMegonigal: @lydiabreakfast LOL whatcha mean by social landscape?? πŸ™‚ (first question and I’m already showing an X-er) #editorchat

[20:52:35] milehighfool: Old guard = Boomers used to the old smoke-stained offices. #editorchat

[20:52:55] JaneFriedman: Q1. In book pub specifically, not sure gen-gap is that pronounced. I meet editors/agents younger than me who spurn e-reading. #editorchat

[20:53:19] GirlsSentAway: @pTsaldari Go to tweetchat.com and enter #editorchat (at least that’s what I’ve been told!)

[20:53:22] milehighfool: New school = Gen Y, which appears completely comfortable with social media and distributed workspaces. #editorchat

[20:53:26] LydiaBreakfast: @JaneFriedman Wow, that is encouraging! #editorchat

[20:53:30] merylkevans: Q1 Actually, Facebook has pulled off bringing in the “old guard” including my brother and mother. Miracle! #editorchat

[20:53:30] AuldHouse: Hello–acquisitions editor for tech publisher by day, starting ebook publisher by night. #editorchat

[20:53:30] sooutdoors: #editorchat Q! – I hate to show my age, but I would say absolutely. Different values and almost a different language for gen Y

[20:53:32] JaneFriedman: Q1 #editorchat – And to clarify, I sit on the Gen X-Gen Y cusp.

[20:53:51] merylkevans: On top of that, best friends from childhood are still not big on email and Internet (Gen-X). #editorchat

[20:54:02] LydiaBreakfast: @merylkevans average age of facebook users is 35+ now #editorchat

[20:54:14] judywriter: In State of Play it was more about the diff between old-school journalism & new-age blogging than about the generation gap. #editorchat

[20:54:22] milehighfool: @JaneFriedman Is that a new development, Jane? or has it been this way for years? #editorchat

[20:54:30] JMegonigal: Q1: Consider: Gen Ys may be “comfortable” with soc. med, but they are less likely (by numbers) to use it. Esp. for work. #editorchat

[20:54:39] foleymo: RT @milehighfool: New school = Gen Y, which appears completely comfortable with social media and distributed workspaces. #editorchat

[20:54:42] LydiaBreakfast: Social landscape of media = the people doing the work (and the people consuming it) #editorchat

[20:54:45] JaySlacks: @LydiaBreakfast Q1 Yes. Is that too easy an answer? #editorchat

[20:54:45] kcesarz: Not one of the ‘old guard’ – see WSJ social media rules – is really willing to take on social media – #editorchat

[20:54:53] JaneFriedman: Q1. Digital/online landscape not well understood (yet) by bk publishers. Lot of chaos, few answers. Age seems to matter little. #editorchat

[20:55:02] milehighfool: @sooutdoors Does iut affect your process, Lloyd? #editorchat

[20:55:10] hotspringer: Q1: Gaps appear most prominently in vertical structures. In horizontal relationships, not so much. #editorchat

[20:55:13] writemo: @milehighfool Advertising writer, NYC. 1st chat ever #editorchat

[20:55:16] shortformernie: Q1: Of course it is! It feels so often that older journalists take on new technology in a heavy-handed way. #editorchat

[20:55:17] LydiaBreakfast: @JaySlacks explain please πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[20:55:18] PDXsays: .@JMegonigal Q1: Consider: Gen Ys m/b “comfortable” w/ soc. med, but are less likely (by numbers) to use it. Esp. for work. #editorchat

[20:55:32] judywriter: As someone nearing 60 I stand for the boomers. Many ppl older than I are on twitter, FB & have had blogs since the early days. #editorchat

[20:55:45] JDEbberly: Apologize for arriving late to Editorchat. Traffic has been terrible this past week here in DCA #editorchat

[20:55:46] LydiaBreakfast: @kcesarz also encouraging, especially given that WSJ mandate #editorchat

[20:55:58] shortformernie: Q1: At one of the more experimental papers I worked at, the dichotomy was distinct among beat reporters asking to blog. #editorchat

[20:56:07] booksandcorsets: Q1: I do think that there is a gap. Smaller companies must adapt quicker; the larger companies will be okay for a bit #editorchat

[20:56:07] ellmcgirt: Q1 – Re: old guard, sometimes, yes. But new guard often missing old fashn’d reporting/intervu skills. Cross pollnation wud help #editorchat

[20:56:09] LydiaBreakfast: @JDEbberly Hi JD glad to see you #editorchat

[20:56:15] milehighfool: @writemo Glad you could make it. #editorchat

[20:56:20] JaySlacks: @JaneFriedman Q1 Do they ever give a reason why? That’s curious. I thought it would be different #editorchat

[20:56:30] JenniferPerillo: @LydiaBreakfast Q1 Yes, many staff editors that’ve been in the game a while are not ready to accept the landscape has changed. #editorchat

[20:56:38] JaneFriedman: Q1. Book publishing has ALWAYS been behind the curve — always fairly entrenched. Can’t stay that way, of course. Change afoot. #editorchat

[20:56:39] judywriter: I really don’t think it’s a matter of age/generation. It’s whether you’re open to new ideas/risks or not so much. At any age. #editorchat

[20:56:52] milehighfool: @judywriter So not much of an issue for you. Are you much dealing with Gen Y? Your editors, for example? #editorchat

[20:56:52] JaySlacks: @LydiaBreakfast I was thinking the same thing. I thought it was worse. That’s a good thing. #editorchat

[20:57:02] JDEbberly: @LydiaBreakfast I am glad to see you too, Lydia. I always learn something new here every week πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[20:57:03] jennipps: @judywriter I would agree with that. #editorchat

[20:57:08] hinder: Q1 I think there is a huge gap between the old and the new. But those from the older set that learn SM rock at it. #editorchat

[20:57:09] LydiaBreakfast: RT @ellmcgirt old guard, sometimes, yes. New guard often missing old fashn’d reporting/intervu skills. Cross pollnation wud help #editorchat

[20:57:11] shortformernie: Q1: When they did, it was deliberate as opposed to coming natural. That’s the problem. If it’s deliberate, it feels fake. #editorchat

[20:57:19] jennipps: RT @judywriter I really don’t think it’s a matter of age/generation. It’s whether you’re open to new ideas/risks or not so much. #editorchat

[20:57:31] booksandcorsets: @JaneFriedman Q1: Agree w/bk pub always being behind curve. But I think newspaper and magazines are also behind it this time #editorchat

[20:57:31] AuldHouse: Q1 in tech publishing it is just a matter of keeping up no matter what gen. I’m genX #editorchat

[20:57:34] ellmcgirt: @judywriter Q1 – I’ve observed that too. #editorchat

[20:57:40] milehighfool: @ellmcgirt Agreed. Is the old reporter’s notebook still around? The sort I used to scribble box scores in as a sports reporter? #editorchat

[20:57:41] JaneFriedman: Q1 – As an example, CEO of F+W Media is engaged with social media and promotes its use. Incredible vision. #editorchat

[20:57:43] JDEbberly: Apologies to my followers for excessive tweeting from now on into at least 1030-11pm as I join Editorchat #editorchat

[20:57:48] JenniferPerillo: @JaneFriedman Yes, it’s not age so much as how long as someone has been in the business and use dto doing things a certain way. #editorchat

[20:58:00] JMegonigal: @milehighfool I dont imagine there are Many Ys in editing positions yet…next 5-10 years, probably….#editorchat

[20:58:01] JaySlacks: @judywriter Q1 isn’t that the same thing? Would the old guard ever have even thought to twitter? #editorchat

[20:58:28] merylkevans: R@judywriter really don’t think it’s a matter of age/generation. It’s whether you’re open to new ideas/risks or not so much. !! #editorchat

[20:58:28] waltyates: Gen Y’s expect 2-way communication from brands and publishers. X’ers are getting there. #editorchat #pr20chat

[20:58:42] sooutdoors: @judywriter #editorchat Q1 I agree completely but in terms of writing there are distinct differences that need to be addressed.

[20:58:47] LydiaBreakfast: @JMegonigal Gen Y editors are mostly handling start-ups and self-pubbed ventures, so? #editorchat

[20:58:49] lisasepiphany: I’ve been watching you for several weeks, & now would like to be part of the discussion #editorchat

[20:58:53] MelynMcKay: Sitting on the sidelines for #editorchat, PR people can learn from their media colleagues; a good PR person makes a writer’s job easier

[20:58:57] JaySlacks: @hotspringer Wow. Man. Is it going to be like that? #editorchat

[20:58:57] AuldHouse: Most of the Y’s I see are young MBAs not in editing profession. #editorchat

[20:58:58] milehighfool: @booksandcorsets In what way? Are you speaking in terms of coverage or use of tech? Or? #editorchat

[20:59:09] shortformernie: Q1: I think that it’s hard to sell the benefit of technology to older journalists who are afraid of losing their jobs. #editorchat

[20:59:11] LydiaBreakfast: @lisasepiphany Great, join it any time #editorchat

[20:59:22] JaneFriedman: @JaySlacks Why book pub behind the times? I think it’s historical. Gutenberg and all that. “Tradition” #editorchat

[20:59:30] JMegonigal: Q1 I see larger gaps between different outlets than I do generations…#editorchat

[20:59:31] LydiaBreakfast: @MelynMcKay Indeed they do – thank you πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[20:59:33] wordful: Aloha, Charles of Wordful here…I’m late #editorchat

[20:59:44] BeckyDMBR: @LydiaBreakfast FB might be older’n that by now. Watch SNL? They’ve got “cougars” checking FB. lol #editorchat

[20:59:49] ellmcgirt: @milehighfool And the fine art of conversation! The gatekeeper shmooze! <putting press card in brim of fedora> #editorchat

[20:59:58] milehighfool: @shortformernie Even when there’s no other choice but to adapt? That seems hard to believe. #editorchat

[21:00:03] shortformernie: @wordful Howdy dude! #editorchat

[21:00:05] JenniferPerillo: RT @judywriter: It’s not a matter of age/generation. It’s whether you’re open to new ideas/risks or not so much. At any age. #editorchat

[21:00:05] judywriter: My journ editors are near my age. My book editor is Gen Y. No probs so far (knock on wood). #editorchat

[21:00:10] booksandcorsets: Q1 Well hey, I’m a Gen Y.. there are many in assistant ed/associate ed positions. #editorchat

[21:00:15] sooutdoors: #editorchat Q1 I think social media is a factor but that is driven (or drives) the demand for immediacy.

[21:00:24] JaySlacks: @LydiaBreakfast I feel that people are open to new social networking, but I’m not sure it is helping quality writing #editorchat

[21:00:29] judywriter: @SoOutdoors What kind of distinct differences? #editorchat

[21:00:39] milehighfool: @ellmcgirt You forgot the cocktail πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[21:00:55] JaneFriedman: @bookandcorsets Agree that all print pubs can be blind to the changes, seems to related to the leadership. #editorchat

[21:01:04] JMegonigal: @LydiaBreakfast So they are up for risk. Social media is still new and (somewhat) unproven. Maybe that’s a connection… #editorchat

[21:01:11] acnatta: @milehighfool @shortformernie some of them just don’t like change #editorchat

[21:01:12] hinder: Q1: I think both sets have challenges. The older need to learn how to use it, the younger need to learn the correct use for biz. #editorchat

[21:01:16] judywriter: @JaySlacks No, but not being the inventor doesn’t mean you’re not on board. #editorchat

[21:01:18] katcalbes: Totally AGREE! RT @waltyates: Gen Y’s expect 2-way communication from brands and publishers. X’ers are getting there. #editorchat #pr20chat

[21:01:41] shortformernie: @milehighfool You’d be surprised. Some people are afraid of rocking the boat, even when it’s already shaking. #editorchat

[21:01:57] LydiaBreakfast: @JMegonigal exactly as are the boomers taking the SM leap and leading the charge like @JOHNABYRNE #editorchat

[21:02:02] JDEbberly: Q1 I think the new school can learn some from the old guard and vice versa. #editorchat

[21:02:10] milehighfool: There seem to be two issues here: tech and process. isn’t attachment to process the bigger issue? (“This is the way we do it.”) #editorchat

[21:02:15] kristoforlawson: Q1- what does your gen have to do with anything??? #editorchat

[21:02:36] ellmcgirt: @milehighfool Nostalgia for an era I never lived through. (I bet that’s in the DSM.) Probably proof that I’m old guard, huh? #editorchat

[21:02:48] JMegonigal: RT @hinder: Q1: both sets have challenges. older need to learn how to use it, the younger need to learn the correct use for biz. #editorchat

[21:02:54] booksandcorsets: @milehighfool Q1 Refer to use of social media for publicity/connecting w/audience. Smaller cos in bk pub have a handle on it #editorchat

[21:03:05] milehighfool: @hinder”It” as in tech? Social media? #editorchat

[21:03:20] merylkevans: @kristoforlawson Amen! My sister is very social media and my brother isn’t (2 yrs apart and she’s older). #editorchat

[21:03:22] LydiaBreakfast: So age is not the factor we agree, just mindset and willingness to risk and change #editorchat

[21:03:24] sooutdoors: @judywriter #editorchat Q1 I think largely in terms of the immediacy demanded. Fast at the expense of accuracy.

[21:03:29] marciamarcia: We research x-gen issues and find SoMe *use* isn’t easy to generalize. #editorchat

[21:03:32] shortformernie: @milehighfool I was at a fairly innovative paper and there were lots of people there who only bought into it on the surface. #editorchat

[21:03:45] judywriter: Why thank you! LOL RT @hinder: ….But those from the older set that learn SM rock at it. #editorchat

[21:03:48] milehighfool: @ellmcgirt Right. I caught the end of that era at the beginning of my career. Hard to believe it ever existed. #editorchat

[21:03:59] LydiaBreakfast: Q2 – Do you see a cultural shift occurring as social media levels the playing field between old and new forms of thought? #editorchat

[21:04:04] JMegonigal: @LydiaBreakfast True. So, I dont know that generationally, in a single newsroom, that it would make much difference…#editorchat

[21:04:06] kristoforlawson: Q1 – plenty of social media people are older… plenty are younger…. it’s pretty even these days… your gen shouldn’t matter #editorchat

[21:04:07] SpecialDee: Q1 There’s a gap between those who want to use the available communication tools and those who want to use what they know. #editorchat

[21:04:10] jennipps: RT @LydiaBreakfast So age is not the factor we agree, just mindset and willingness to risk and change #editorchat

[21:04:18] LJBoldyrev: #editorchat

[21:04:22] marciamarcia: Where we can generalize x-gen is in preferred learning (& reading) methods, tech comfort, and authority. #editorchat

[21:04:34] milehighfool: @shortformernie The “I’ll do this because I have to” crowd. In publishing, that *is* the generation gap, right? #editorchat

[21:04:35] JaneFriedman: @milehighfool For me, the bigger issue is the right STRATEGY amidst chaos, using right tools. Everyone ready to change process! #editorchat

[21:04:40] SpecialDee: Q1 Training at work is all important and that should include social media: blogs, microblogs, etc. #editorchat

[21:04:59] JaySlacks: @JaneFriedman Q1 Is that a good change? More and more, reading a book is special. It shouldn’t be that way for young people. #editorchat

[21:05:11] SpecialDee: Q1 Methods of communication don’t disappear overnight and new methods don’t get learned over night. Generations need each other. #editorchat

[21:05:13] judywriter: That I agree with. RT @SoOutdoors: #editorchat Q1 I think largely in terms of the immediacy demanded. Fast at the expense of accuracy.

[21:05:15] AuldHouse: @milehighfool Although I’ve been in pub since 1994–and look at the changes in process even without social media. #editorchat

[21:05:21] wordful: Q2 Definitely a cultural shift. There no longer keepers of information, only producers are sharers. #editorchat

[21:05:32] underoak: Hey all. I’m Andria, Charlotte freelance and consulting, joining in #editorchat but likely fairly quiet while juggling some other stuff.

[21:05:37] sooutdoors: #editorchat A wise man once told me that people want things fast, cheap, and high quality. You can pick any two but not all three πŸ™‚

[21:05:38] Naked_Jewelry: RT @jennipps RT @LydiaBreakfast So age is not the factor we agree, just mindset and willingness to risk and change #editorchat

[21:05:40] kristoforlawson: Q2- there is a cultural shift with every new technology.. the important thing is not forgetting other ways of communication #editorchat

[21:05:42] milehighfool: RT @SpecialDee: Q1 There’s a gap between those who want to use the available tools and those who want to use what they know. #editorchat

[21:05:45] ellmcgirt: Q1 – Re: process, In hierarchical pubs innovation aversion feels baked in. Attachment to status quo wud be less generational #editorchat

[21:05:50] wordful: Q2 Definitely a cultural shift. There are no longer keepers of information, only producers are sharers. (Whoops) #editorchat

[21:05:52] AuldHouse: I mean who here used to edit on paper and now edits online only? Uses email to transfer files that used to be mailed? #editorchat

[21:05:58] JaySlacks: @LydiaBreakfast missing old fashioned skills is an excellent point. Is all this social networking helping this generation? #editorchat

[21:06:01] JMegonigal: Definitely a risk to buck the standard processes. I evaluate constantly what I was taught in j-school and WHY I was taught it #editorchat

[21:06:13] booksandcorsets: Q2 I don’t believe SM levels the playing field. It doesn’t grant exp or writing ability, merely networking w/others who use SM #editorchat

[21:06:25] jennipps: Q2 @LydiaBreakfast If so, I may have missed a lot since I’ve been involve w/sm since July & things are just starting good for me #editorchat

[21:06:25] LydiaBreakfast: Let’s got to Q2 Do you see a cultural shift occur as social media levels the playing field between old and new forms of thought? #editorchat

[21:06:29] JaneFriedman: @JaySlacks Sometimes I think we’re caught up in concept of reading a *book*, maybe when we should talk about reading a *story*? #editorchat

[21:06:40] shortformernie: Q2: Yes. I think that the next generation of journalists will be more individualized. #editorchat

[21:07:04] merylkevans: Q2 Social media takes away the things that might prejudice us in person and takes away barriers for deaf folks like me. #editorchat

[21:07:04] LydiaBreakfast: @JaySlacks Certainly can hinder true (old school) professional behavior #editorchat

[21:07:15] JDEbberly: JOIN US at #editorchat ! Its where pro writers & editors who use Twitter can discuss how best to help one another.

[21:07:19] BethFishReads: @AuldHouse Let me say that again with the hashtag: Me! I’ve been a freelance book editor since 1984 #editorchat

[21:07:23] shortformernie: Q2: That’s the cultural shift. The big organization will lose much of its influence on journalists. #editorchat

[21:07:23] acnatta: @JaySlacks it will if they remember it’s a tool and not a crutch #editorchat

[21:07:23] milehighfool: RT @LydiaBreakfast: Q2 – Do you see a cultural shift occurring as social media levels the playing field between old and new? #editorchat

[21:07:25] SpecialDee: Q2 Until “old forms” of communication are phased out, everything is valid: e-mail, phone, snail mail. All have purposes 4 using. #editorchat

[21:07:47] JaySlacks: @JaneFriedman Good point. But those ol’ school ideas worked and create great lit. #editorchat

[21:07:48] LydiaBreakfast: @merylkevans Wow, excellent point – it absolutely does #editorchat

[21:07:56] milehighfool: @JaneFriedman Agree completely. Willingness to adapt has always been a skill but now it’s a survivalist tool. #editorchat

[21:08:15] JDEbberly: What exactly is Editorchat? See https://editorchat.wordpress.com/ #editorchat

[21:08:20] sooutdoors: #editorchat Q2 not so sure about a cultural shift as much as a cultural clash. Boomers & gen Y with X in the middle.

[21:08:21] shortformernie: Q2: By the way, I was at #sndchicago this Saturday and got a preview of the Tribune’s ChicagoNow blog project. #editorchat

[21:08:23] JDEbberly: RT @milehighfool: @JaneFriedman Agree completely. Willingness to adapt has always been a skill but now it’s a survivalist tool. #editorchat

[21:08:28] lisasepiphany: I think the shift is partly due to environmental concerns, so is a natural movement to online distribution of information #editorchat

[21:08:43] ellmcgirt: @milehighfool Me too. I missed the legendary “drink cart” at Fortune Mag by barely a fortnight. Sigh. #editorchat

[21:08:46] milehighfool: RT @merylkevans: Q2 Social media takes away the things that might prejudice us in person and barriers for deaf folks like me. #editorchat

[21:08:51] JMegonigal: @LydiaBreakfast Is it soc.med.leveling the playing field?Or are we just seeing so many forms DIE that we know we have to change? #editorchat

[21:08:51] SpecialDee: Q2 Even the “old fashioned” business card still has a place. They’re cheap and easy to distribute in person. Face2face meetings #editorchat

[21:08:59] milehighfool: @shortformernie And are you impressed? #editorchat

[21:09:01] shortformernie: Q2: The somewhat hostile response to the idea was interesting. Some people didn’t like Tribune just co-opting these blogs. #editorchat

[21:09:22] milehighfool: @JaneFriedman Agree completely. Willingness to adapt has always been a skill but now it’s a survivalist tool. #editorchat

[21:09:23] JaySlacks: @milehighfool Good point, attachment to the process. So is the attachment helping or hurting? #editorchat

[21:09:33] kristoforlawson: @SpecialDee – I agree! Everything in it’s place…. social media has the ability to make you less connected in reality #editorchat

[21:09:40] sooutdoors: #editorchat Q2 I think each group has different expectations and as writers we need to address the expectations of our target readers.

[21:09:52] hotspringer: RT @milehighfool Willingness to adapt has always been a skill but now it’s a survivalist tool. #editorchat

[21:09:53] JMegonigal: Q2- I dont change my thinking bc of soc.med. I do because I’m not convinced that “the way its always been done” works anymore. #editorchat

[21:10:07] JDEbberly: @milehighfool Adaptation and learning new skills will be very important. #editorchat

[21:10:14] shortformernie: @milehighfool I wouldn’t do it. I think giving Tribune the keys even as you claim ownership is just a bad idea. #editorchat

[21:10:16] LydiaBreakfast: In my experience, twitter has totally slashed barriers, it makes a world of difference when people can only read/write 140 char. #editorchat

[21:10:19] milehighfool: @JaySlacks I think it’s hurting. As @JaneFriedman said, process is only as good as the strategy that it serves. #editorchat

[21:10:27] acnatta: Q2 – it can level the playing field, but some won’t take advantage. It could allow for more niche work though #editorchat

[21:10:40] kristoforlawson: @JMegonigal – definitely progress is about adaptation rather then ‘change’ #editorchat

[21:10:49] marciamarcia: SoMe isn’t leveling the playing field for thought as much as offering a broader array of ways to communicate important ideas. Q2 #editorchat

[21:10:51] jennipps: RT @SpecialDee Q2 Until “old forms” of communication are phased out, everything is valid: e-mail, phone, snail mail. All have pu #editorchat

[21:10:52] jennipps: @SpecialDee And still expected, too. Though people now also want Twitter & LinkedIn info on them. #editorchat

[21:11:04] SpecialDee: #editorchat Social media has its place online – what do you do “in the flesh”

[21:11:12] shortformernie: @milehighfool The idea doesn’t make sense for the climate. It puts the big organizational umbrella on an individualized format. #editorchat

[21:11:15] jennipps: @acnatta Q2 I think the bit about niche work is how I’m finally able to break in to some markets otherwise closed to me. #editorchat

[21:11:15] AuldHouse: Q2: I find it interesting that the level field may be flattened. Just look at NY editors here interacting with editors all over #editorchat

[21:11:33] judywriter: Q2 The Web is what leveled the playing field. Everything else is an offshoot of that. SM is that on steroids! #editorchat

[21:11:48] acnatta: RT @SpecialDee: #editorchat Social media has its place online – what do you do “in the flesh” ?

[21:11:51] milehighfool: @marciamarcia Agree. But the act of participatory broadcasting spreads good ideas and debubks bad ideas faster. #editorchat

[21:12:09] hotspringer: Q2: Social media has always existed in some form: barber/beauty shops? Technology has lowered entry age, given broader access. #editorchat

[21:12:34] milehighfool: @shortformernie Thhus the soul of the individual — the voice — is squished like a grape. #editorchat

[21:12:48] hinder: True It’s about adapting. We still convey info, still shoot for accuracy, stellar writing, solid reporting, just in dif manner #editorchat

[21:12:54] SuburbNews: @LydiaBreakfast That’s what I love about twitter – it does smash barriers. #editorchat

[21:13:37] acnatta: @jennipps Q2 I think that’s absolutely right. It’s a way to engage groups we didn’t have access to before #editorchat

[21:13:53] wordful: Q2 Seems like an issue of the individual voice vs. the big organization: they will both have to compromise for this to work. #editorchat

[21:14:15] SpecialDee: That is such a great observation RT @hotspringer: Q2: Social media has always existed in some form: barber/beauty shops? #editorchat

[21:14:37] milehighfool: So a related question. Has social media closed the generation gap enough that individual voice can rise within old institutions? #editorchat

[21:14:51] LydiaBreakfast: RT @hinder True It’s about adapting. We still convey info, still shoot for accuracy, stellar writing, solid reporting, #editorchat

[21:14:51] LydiaBreakfast: The level field may be flattened. Just look at NY editors here interacting with editors all over RT @Auldhouse -exactly! #editorchat

[21:15:14] GLHancock: Q2: We have always networked. Now we have digital options. #editorchat

[21:15:17] merylkevans: These chats are the best conversations I can have — no misunderstanding or trying to keep up with who is talking. #editorchat

[21:15:25] milehighfool: @ellmcgirt Thanks, Ellen. Take care. #editorchat

[21:15:32] SpecialDee: Yes & SM helps us find those peeps RT @acnatta: @jennipps Q2 It’s a way to engage groups we didn’t have access to before #editorchat

[21:15:33] sooutdoors: @acnatta #editorchat Q2 this exchange of information is a prime example of something that would have been impossible not long ago.

[21:15:36] LydiaBreakfast: RT @milehighfool related Q Has social media closed the gen gap enough that individual voice can rise within old institutions? #editorchat

[21:15:36] wordful: @milehighfool Sure, but the individual voices need to speak with their own merit to be heard. Otherwise…it gets ignored. #editorchat

[21:15:39] shortformernie: @milehighfool EXACTLY! That’s what I’m talking about! #editorchat

[21:15:48] jennipps: @milehighfool I’ll let you know after I get a reply to my latest queries. lol. #editorchat

[21:15:59] writemo: eveything moving faster and cheaper is def affecting the ad industry. #editorchat

[21:16:14] cursingeditor: agree with @acnatta. The best thing we’ve found about Twitter as a newspaper is that it’s a new audience we didn’t have before. #editorchat

[21:16:18] JDEbberly: @ellmcgirt Thanks for stopping by tonight. Have an excellent evening! πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[21:16:18] marciamarcia: @milehighfool New participatory broadcasting spreads good ideas, debunks bad, & surfaces distraction fast. Easy to miss anything #editorchat

[21:16:37] milehighfool: @merylkevans We’re honored you join us each week. #editorchat

[21:16:39] booksandcorsets: @milehighfool The individual voice won’t ever be able to rise within old institutions until they are the ones running it #editorchat

[21:16:58] sooutdoors: @milehighfool #editorchat Unfortunately I think there are till a lot of “old boys clubs” out there that resist new voices.

[21:17:27] milehighfool: @booksandcorsets So if that’s true, can the generation gap in publishing ever be closed? #editorchat

[21:17:39] merylkevans: @milehighfool (blush) Honored to be amongst you! I mean… you work for the Cool Fool! πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[21:18:37] shortformernie: @milehighfool I think it can, but I think the climate has to be open for it. If there’s structural constraints, then no. #editorchat

[21:18:45] cursingeditor: @sooutdoors resistance to new voices isn’t new or isolated to journalism. #editorchat

[21:18:46] milehighfool: @sooutdoors I think that’s true. Perhapos the good news is that we’ve had some of these very institutions represented here. #editorchat

[21:18:56] jennipps: Sorry, all…I’m bailing. The cousins I’ve been house & dog sitting for this week & last are home. πŸ™‚ I’ll catch the transcript. #editorchat

[21:19:03] JMegonigal: @booksandcorsets @milehighfool So what if the new voices rise AROUND the old guard, become known and respected, THEN make place? #editorchat

[21:19:09] acnatta: @cursingeditor I think it may also help us figure out just what they want to know about #editorchat

[21:19:21] booksandcorsets: @milehighfool No. Wouldn’t want it to, would mean tech stopped evolving. Had this conv during the move from typewriters to comps #editorchat

[21:19:30] milehighfool: @jennipps Thanks, Jen. See you next week. #editorchat

[21:19:37] marciamarcia: Can the generation gap in publishing ever close? Well, no more or less so than it does anywhere. Education. Politics. Parenting. #editorchat

[21:19:44] JDEbberly: @jennipps Nice having you over, Jen. Lokking forward to seeing you next week! #editorchat

[21:19:45] JaneFriedman: It feels like there may be something of a false dichotomy here. Sometimes we all disagree on methods, but values matter more. #editorchat

[21:19:48] ptsaldari: It’s been a pleasure, good night all. #editorchat

[21:20:02] merylkevans: @sooutdoors True. I hope my city is finally turning. Elected our first minority on school board in 100+ yrs! She’s a teacher too #editorchat

[21:20:07] JDEbberly: RT @SuburbNews: @LydiaBreakfast That’s what I love about twitter – it does smash barriers. #editorchat

[21:20:08] wordful: And that, my friend, is the Great Question. RT @milehighfool Can the generation gap publishing ever be closed? #editorchat

[21:20:22] SpecialDee: @milehighfool Generation gap: how many Boomers have a Millenial for a boss? What’s it like? #editorchat

[21:20:22] JenniferPerillo: @JaySlacks Things like #editorchat prove social media’s worth. Networking beyond boundaries. For research you also get instant help.

[21:20:32] milehighfool: @JMegonigal This is the message I’m hearing from Christina Katz (@thewritermama) re: platforms. A good message for writers. #editorchat

[21:20:37] foleymo: RT @hotspringer: Social media always existed in some form: barber/beauty shops? Technology lowers entry age, gives broad access #editorchat

[21:20:52] cursingeditor: @acnatta Yes, and with the new tools, they can participate in the process. A conversation with readers. Imagine that. #editorchat

[21:20:53] GLHancock: @JaneFriedman — Amen! False dichotomy. #editorchat

[21:21:28] wordful: Can the generation gap in publishing ever close? Yes, but it will take some revolutionary leadership and risky ideas. #editorchat

[21:21:50] judywriter: @SpecialDee The best boss I’ve ever had is a #editorchat

[21:21:51] LydiaBreakfast: I think the workplace -now with three, potentially four gens- is going to have to adapt as a whole to be productive #editorchat

[21:22:02] milehighfool: @booksandcorsets Good point. The generation gap proves the business is evolving. Like your outlook. #editorchat

[21:22:12] lisasepiphany: soc med is the network a journalist uses to display or distribute their body of work, it shouldn’t affect best effort or quality #editorchat

[21:22:24] judywriter: @SpecialDee The best boss I’ve ever had is a Gen Xer, haven’t had a Millennial. Scary thought. #editorchat

[21:22:24] JenniferPerillo: Ok, I’ve got go guys. Deadlines call. Will catch up with the tweets tomorrow. http://www.InJenniesKitchen.com #editorchat

[21:22:38] JMegonigal: Ignoring prime aspect here: diff. b/tw generations isn’t soc.med yes or no. It’s about what they value MOST. Priorities are diff.#editorchat

[21:23:11] LydiaBreakfast: @JenniferPerillo Thanks for coming Jennifer #editorchat

[21:23:16] shortformernie: General thought: What media Web sites have flourished the most with limited marketing? The ones that threw out the rule books. #editorchat

[21:23:23] GLHancock: The only differences I see are digital, and a much larger “Letters to the Editor” page. #editorchat

[21:23:24] JDEbberly: @JenniferPerillo See you next week, Jennifer! Take care! #editorchat

[21:23:47] BethFishReads: @SpecialDee I’m sure I have, but as a freelancer, what does it matter how old my inhouse contact is? #editorchat

[21:23:50] JMegonigal: Older generations value loyalty more. Younger value “being real” Older: career. Younger: life balance. #editorchat

[21:24:02] shortformernie: Fark was just created by some guy. So was Pitchfork. Now they’re as influential, if not moreso, than many magazines. #editorchat

[21:24:03] milehighfool: Following from what @booksandcorsets said: Does the generation gap need to be closed? #editorchat

[21:24:04] marciamarcia: @LydiaBreakfast Emphasis on “workplace adapting” rather than expecting everything to be on young or older workers’ shoulders. #editorchat

[21:24:11] booksandcorsets: @JMegonigal Excellent point. SM blurs the division btwn work and home–leads to longer work hours and less time w/family #editorchat

[21:24:11] acnatta: @wordful @milehighfool I think it’s starting to close already, just not fast enough for some πŸ˜‰ #editorchat

[21:24:16] LydiaBreakfast: RT @JMegonigal diff. b/tw generations isn’t soc.med yes or no. It’s about what they value MOST. Priorities are different #editorchat

[21:24:32] judywriter: RT @JMegonigal: Prime aspect diff. b/tw generations isn’t soc.med yes or no. It’s about what they value MOST.Priorities are diff.#editorchat

[21:24:39] wordful: @shortformernie Right. We’re in a time of experimentation and risk-taking. Just like your great blog, Ernie. #editorchat

[21:25:21] acnatta: @booksandcorsets @JMegonigal only if you let it. It’s supposed to be a tool – we should be able to turn it off and walk away #editorchat

[21:25:30] SuburbNews: @booksandcorsets Ouch. I resemble that. #editorchat

[21:25:31] sooutdoors: @JMegonigal #editorchat Totally agree. The trick is to figure out what it is they value πŸ™‚

[21:25:47] SpecialDee: @BethFishReads #editorchat The generational divide in the workplace has been studied extensively. What does it matter? Hmmm.

[21:25:50] LydiaBreakfast: @marciamarcia I think diversity training should be part of every college curriculum, esp with regards to ageism #editorchat

[21:26:00] marciamarcia: Individual voice won’t ever be able to rise within old institutions until they are the ones running it RT @booksandcorsets #editorchat Hmm.

[21:26:01] milehighfool: @BethFishReads Certainly it doesn’t. What matters is how the gap affects process, if at all. #editorchat

[21:26:19] GLHancock: I’m still trying to figure out Gen X! #editorchat

[21:26:20] shortformernie: @wordful Totally. Oh, side note: I got an e-mail from Pitchfork’s Ryan Schriber today saying he was a fan of the site. Whoa. πŸ˜€ #editorchat

[21:26:47] LydiaBreakfast: @SuburbNews me too, family is doing without me right now #editorchat

[21:26:47] JMegonigal: @sooutdoors Actually a lot of studies on that topic. Trends. Values and why (all comes down to major events of those gens). #editorchat

[21:26:55] milehighfool: @shortformernie Nice! Well done, sir. #editorchat

[21:27:05] sooutdoors: @milehighfool #editorchat I don’t think the generation gap will ever close it will only change.

[21:27:46] acnatta: @sooutdoors @JMegonigal doesn’t SM allow for folks to choose channels for themselves already? #editorchat

[21:27:49] BethFishReads: @SpecialDee In book publishing it hasn’t affected me at all, but I have stayed with the technology #editorchat

[21:27:58] marciamarcia: Diversity training doesn’t hold a candle to experiential practices where we work w/ smart people across ages @LydiaBreakfast #editorchat

[21:28:00] hotspringer: Emerging voices have never *asked* permission to be heard. Even whispers can be heard with the right (SoMe) acoustics. #editorchat

[21:28:08] GinaLaGuardia: Sneaking into #editorchat; sorry I’m late. Former mag editor-in-chief, now editorial director/consultant for a # of companies

[21:28:12] merylkevans: @GLHancock I didn’t think I was complicated… rather simple, actually. How can I help w/ your GenX questions? #editorchat

[21:28:31] GLHancock: Generation gaps never close. The old guard passeth away. Or we just get too tired. #editorchat

[21:28:32] milehighfool: @sooutdoors Maybe the point is that it’s a necessary, a forcing function to improve tech and process. #editorchat

[21:28:36] LydiaBreakfast: @GinaLaGuardia Hey Gina thanks for coming #editorchat

[21:28:40] wordful: @shortformernie Yes, your’e certainly onto something… #editorchat

[21:28:44] SpecialDee: #editorchat Generational studies list common traits. The question is, have you noticed a difference in the use of SM among generations?

[21:28:56] JaneFriedman: RT @sooutdoors: @milehighfool #editorchat I don’t think the generation gap will ever close it will only change.

[21:29:08] thewritermama: @milehighfool There is a great article on writer platform development in the current issue of Writer’s Digest mag. #editorchat

[21:29:13] GinaLaGuardia: @LydiaBreakfast Happy to be here. Need a few minutes to catch up. TweetGrid’s moving quickly πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[21:29:34] JMegonigal: @acnatta Of course it does. But I’m still struggling with mixing a convo on SM and generational gaps in journ…. #editorchat

[21:29:35] marciamarcia: @LydiaBreakfast I’m not saying diversity training doesn’t have a place. It’s just not nearly enough to work well x-gen. #editorchat

[21:30:12] shortformernie: rt @GLHancock Generation gaps never close. The old guard passeth away. Or we just get too tired. #editorchat

[21:30:18] JMegonigal: @GLHancock Amen. #editorchat

[21:30:19] sooutdoors: @acnatta #editorchat I believe that is very true. But the audience you have today can quickly jump ship tomorrow.

[21:30:20] milehighfool: @thewritermama Pretty sure I know who wrote that one πŸ™‚ Thanks for joining, Christina. #editorchat

[21:30:27] spencerspellman: Making a brief cameo at #editorchat Spencer Spellman here, freelance writer, Editor, Copywriter

[21:30:33] LydiaBreakfast: Q3 Is old biz model based on ad rev. and subscriptions so ingrained with vets that there’s no room for fresh/profitable approach #editorchat

[21:30:57] JMegonigal: rt @GLHancock Generation gaps never close. The old guard passeth away. Or we just get too tired. #editorchat

[21:31:06] LydiaBreakfast: @spencerspellman Hi Spencer πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[21:31:26] milehighfool: @SpecialDee Haben’t noticed it personally but was struck by a study that said Twitter is more likely than FB to used among 30+ #editorchat

[21:31:37] nullvariable: @smashadv there’s #carchat #prchat & #editorchat plus some guy named Lebron James going on too! It’s not all #idol

[21:31:52] JMegonigal: @lydiabreakfast Q3. Yes. #editorchat

[21:31:57] CitiesCheap: @GinaLaGuardia I think we sneak into #editorchat at the same time most weeks.

[21:31:57] JDEbberly: RT @GLHancock: Generation gaps never close. The old guard passeth away. Or we just get too tired. #editorchat

[21:32:09] CathyWebSavvyPR: @merylkevans sorry for delay – was wrapping up details – if you are in #editorchat – want to do tomorrow?

[21:32:10] spencerspellman: @LydiaBreakfast Hello! Glad to make it for a little bit #editorchat

[21:32:15] marciamarcia: @SpecialDee Use is easy to overgeneralize (that’s more indicative of early adopters vs mainstreat, which has strong gen ties). #editorchat

[21:32:21] PDXsays: #NTEN http://stevenberlinjohnson.com for amazing graph of flow frm news to distribution #editorchat #pr20chat

[21:32:35] SpecialDee: Q3 I don’t think old biz model is so ingrained there’s no room for new approach – no one has found the new approach. #editorchat

[21:32:41] acnatta: @JMegonigal I think the generations will choose a channel they relate with, following who will fill their needs #editorchat

[21:32:59] sooutdoors: @LydiaBreakfast #editorchat Q3 to a certain extent I agree. Hence the demise of many traditional print publications.

[21:33:01] GLHancock: Q3: Who doesn’t like to make money? I like to think we are flexible enough to try most anything with promise of success. #editorchat

[21:33:09] hinder: I think twitter is more popular for 30+ b/c it is easier and it takes less time and effort to set up and use. It’s a quick fix #editorchat

[21:33:26] hotspringer: Q3 The most hungry are the least picky about the menu. #editorchat

[21:33:38] wordful: Q3 Well the old model is now failing so yes, there is ample room to change. If the veterans can’t adapt, they’ll be left behind. #editorchat

[21:33:43] LydiaBreakfast: @GLHancock Ha! Great point πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[21:34:10] marciamarcia: @GLHancock Agree. The new twist is that younger gens now have more opps to speak up publicly. #editorchat

[21:34:12] vickydreiling: Gen Marketing: Messages are crafted to appeal to particular generations based upon shared values, attitudes, and beliefs. TBC #editorchat

[21:34:21] spencerspellman: RT @hinder I think twitter is more popular for 30+ b/c easier and takes less time and effort to set up and use. It’s a quick fix #editorchat

[21:34:36] SpecialDee: Q3 What happens at work when new software is introduced? We have training sessions. For everyone. S/b same for SM training #editorchat.

[21:34:36] sooutdoors: RT @hotspringer: Q3 The most hungry are the least picky about the menu. #editorchat So true πŸ™‚

[21:34:37] GinaLaGuardia: @judywriter Doing well! I will def take a look. Very relevant to @Seniors4Living work (one of the many things keeping me busy) #editorchat

[21:34:37] JMegonigal: @acnatta True. But WITHIN the workplace…not the readership…I dont know that who uses SM is a generational discussion #editorchat

[21:34:38] mspizziri: Q3: What are new ways to make $ (that aren’t ethically dubious or likely to turn off audience)? #editorchat

[21:34:58] JaneFriedman: Q3 You can find many new approaches in book pb with Harlequin, O’Reilly, Chelsea Green, Sourcebooks. #editorchat

[21:35:16] merylkevans: RT @GLHancock Who doesn’t like to make money? I like to think we’re flexible enough to try most anything with promise of sucess #editorchat

[21:35:22] GinaLaGuardia: @judywriter I’m just reading Are Baby Boomers Killing Facebook/Twitter: http://tinyurl.com/pb35zq – have you seen? #editorchat

[21:35:38] mspizziri: @JaneFriedman Such as? #editorchat

[21:35:43] shortformernie: Q3: I think all models to profitability suck right now. The stability that used to be there is all gone. #editorchat

[21:35:55] milehighfool: RT @hotspringer: Q3 The most hungry are the least picky about the menu. (Agreed — hunger will lead change.) #editorchat

[21:36:00] GinaLaGuardia: @CitiesCheap LOL. Just enough time to put little ones down, do a quick edit, then pop in… πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[21:36:05] acnatta: @JMegonigal Definitely #editorchat

[21:36:11] GLHancock: Q3: I have a bone to pick with that article that listed the ways Gen Y will be different. #editorchat

[21:36:16] JaneFriedman: Q3. Also look at mags such as The Economist – they value their pubs, based on subscriber model. The needle moving for some. #editorchat

[21:36:34] shortformernie: Q3: I read a while back that the problem with newspapers going free online was that they only rely on ads. There’s no base. #editorchat

[21:36:37] JMegonigal: @GinaLaGuardia Great post. #editorchat

[21:36:37] wordful: @shortformernie There are some bloggers making very good money right now. #editorchat

[21:36:45] shortformernie: Q3: So when the bottom falls out #editorchat

[21:36:57] GLHancock: In the 70s Boomers found no long-term job security and adapted to computers, learned to work on teams in the 80s, and networked #editorchat

[21:36:58] cursingeditor: @GinaLaGuardia @judywriter if boomers kill facebook/twitter, there will be something new to replace it. #editorchat

[21:37:15] marciamarcia: There’s always room for fresh/profitable approaches. It’s what tech’s “killer apps” can teach all industries. Q3 #editorchat

[21:37:15] JaySlacks: @merylkevans I think the PURSUIT of money has could tons of problems in the publishing world, sadly. #editorchat

[21:37:27] GinaLaGuardia: @cursingeditor That seems to be the consensus of the article… just not anything “new” yet — YET! πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[21:37:28] shortformernie: @wordful It’s scale. You have to have a huge audience to do it. Unless you know any secrets. If so, we should talk. πŸ˜€ #editorchat

[21:37:49] GLHancock: networked like crazy in the 90s. This is not all new! #editorchat

[21:37:57] milehighfool: Q3. Newsweek, too, is inspiring in this area. Charge for content that you can’t get elsewhere. #editorchat

[21:38:11] LydiaBreakfast: @GLHancock And now the Xers are doing the same thing – adapting to a non-secure employment landscape #editorchat

[21:38:35] spencerspellman: RT @milehighfool Q3. Newsweek, too, is inspiring in this area. Charge for content that you can’t get elsewhere. #editorchat

[21:38:39] GinaLaGuardia: @cursingeditor BTW, how much do I LOVE your handle???! πŸ˜‰ #editorchat

[21:38:46] vickydreiling: Gen Marketing targeted to gens based on shared values & attitudes – from collective experiences(e.g., 9/11) #editorchat

[21:38:49] acnatta: @shortformernie should blogs be looking at creating events as well? #editorchat

[21:38:54] JaySlacks: @shortformernie Is it profitability? Or is it greed? It is getting hard to know the difference. #editorchat

[21:39:00] shortformernie: Q3: When I was at #rev2oh back in March, the best idea out of that was making iPhone apps free but selling added features. #editorchat

[21:39:01] JaneFriedman: Q3. Advertising may dry up in long run. Ad mkt changing so much. Mags need to be sub-driven. There IS recognition in indutry. #editorchat

[21:39:08] wordful: @shortformernie U build huge audiences by marketing yourself, hustling, social media strategy. Time consuming, yes, but worth it #editorchat

[21:39:35] JMegonigal: In Europe many/most mags are operated on Subscriptions. In US, ads. Maybe the shift to profitability lies in a flat world. #editorchat

[21:39:46] marciamarcia: When publisher comes up with a great new profitable workable model, everyone else will pay notice and we’ll see change. #editorchat

[21:40:00] milehighfool: Q3: On the other hand, Bill Keller at the NYT talks if asking for $ for content could kill traffic at the NYT. I don’t buy it. #editorchat

[21:40:08] shortformernie: @wordful Well, I’m already doing that. Too bad I have a job so I can’t do it more. πŸ˜€ #editorchat

[21:40:27] dodgemedlin: Q3 @jeffjarvis (I think) has suggested charging for more convenient ways of delivering content, not for the content itself. #editorchat

[21:40:53] wordful: @shortformernie I completely empathize with you, brother. #editorchat

[21:40:56] shortformernie: Q3: On a side note, I heard Jim Coudal speak about #thedeck recently. Great advertising idea, but it needs to scale down. #editorchat

[21:41:09] GLHancock: @milehighfool Q3: Didn’t the NYT used to charge for content? Like WSJ? Even U-T at one time. #editorchat

[21:41:11] SuburbNews: @shortformernie You’re scaring me. I thought @rev2oh came up with some good ad schemes to try to replace lost classifieds #editorchat

[21:41:26] sooutdoors: RT @marciamarcia: When publisher comes up with a great new workable model, everyone else will pay notice and we’ll see change. #editorchat

[21:41:29] hinder: @milehighfool it won’t kill the NYT to ask for $, but they tried that pay-for-content section a couple years ago and it flopped #editorchat

[21:41:39] spencerspellman: Q3 I’ve heard of some publications charging for content that you can’t get elsewhere, which I think has some potential.Thoughts? #editorchat

[21:41:47] dodgemedlin: @GLHancock Yep, NYT tried charging for a while. If the U-T has done it, it was before my time here. #editorchat

[21:41:51] judywriter: @GinaLaGuardia Just read that article. Thx! Good article but that pic of boomers depicted as Woodstock hippies is offensive! #editorchat

[21:42:06] acnatta: Q3 is the voluntary membership payment plan an option? #editorchat

[21:42:07] JaySlacks: @JaneFriedman Q3 I think the new revision of Newsweek is a good example of the proper changes needed. #editorchat

[21:42:10] milehighfool: @GLHancock Yes and then stopped. The problem, apaprently, is that the traffic is huge and the ad dollars rich. #editorchat

[21:42:22] GinaLaGuardia: @judywriter I thought the same thing. Holy stereotype, Batman…. #editorchat

[21:42:31] JMegonigal: Think the days of paying for news are long gone. Paying for insight, in-depth, new looks, advice, etc. -Γ‚ $$ still there. #editorchat

[21:42:42] shortformernie: @SuburbNews They did. #rev2oh also came up with new homepage and small biz approaches too. #editorchat

[21:42:42] spencerspellman: Q3 I think if the content is good enough, then people will pay to get it. Content has to be king #editorchat

[21:42:51] JDEbberly: RT @JaySlacks: @JaneFriedman Q3 I think the new revision of Newsweek is a good example of the proper changes needed. #editorchat

[21:43:03] judywriter: @cursingeditor Very true. I gave a talk on SM to a bus. group w/ a handout & told ’em it’s a snapshot, guaranteed to change. #editorchat

[21:43:07] GLHancock: @dodgemedlin When Signonsandiego.com first appeared, you had to buy a subscription to access at least the archive #editorchat

[21:43:11] JaneFriedman: @milehighfool I think the newspaper model and mag model will end up very different from each other #editorchat

[21:43:29] milehighfool: Q3: I think the problem is that you can’t ask readers to pay for *everything* online, just the truly unique content. #editorchat

[21:43:31] shortformernie: rt @JMegonigal Days of paying for news are long gone. Paying for insight, in-depth, new looks, advice, etc. – $$ still there #editorchat

[21:43:42] LydiaBreakfast: @JaneFriedman how do you see them differing? #editorchat

[21:43:51] JMegonigal: To move to subscription based mag, offer subscribers MORE than newsstand/online readers. Make them your tribe, a la Seth Godin #editorchat

[21:44:00] dodgemedlin: @GLHancock Interesting. I know a lot of places at least talked about $ for archives. Didn’t know the U-T had done it. #editorchat

[21:44:05] judywriter: @GinaLaGuardia The minute I saw the pic I knew the article was written by a Gen X’er. Just doesn’t get us. Only we get us! #editorchat

[21:44:05] sooutdoors: RT @JMegonigal: Think the days of paying for news are gone. Paying for insight, in-depth, new looks, advice -Γ‚ $$ still there. #editorchat

[21:44:40] SpecialDee: #editorchat What are communities going 2 do when advertisers won’t support the cost of a supplement for school bus routes?

[21:44:52] shortformernie: @milehighfool You got it. I think the idea is structuring unique content in ways that people will pay for it. #editorchat

[21:45:10] JaneFriedman: @spencerspellman Content must aggregate from masses of content, or offer trust/authority, or have a quality that’s value for $$ #editorchat

[21:45:18] milehighfool: @JaneFriedman Mostly agree. I think we’ll see tiers of content based on form, geography, interest, etc. #editorchat

[21:46:05] Brendacopeland: @marciamarcia I don’t think it will be just one model, though. I think it will happen in increments. #editorchat

[21:46:26] JDEbberly: RT @milehighfool: @JaneFriedman Mostly agree. I think we’ll see tiers of content based on form, geography, interest, etc. #editorchat

[21:46:34] JaySlacks: @JaneFriedman I’m not sure if sub-driven is reliable enough. However, it could give them pressure for interesting content. #editorchat

[21:46:36] spencerspellman: @milehighfool I agree about your comment about paying for truly unique content for subscribers #editorchat

[21:46:37] milehighfool: Q3: I’m not sure we’ve ever generated a mechanism for measuring value in publishing. Circulation doesn’t equal value. #editorchat

[21:46:37] JaneFriedman: @LydiaBreakfast Right now most news models are horizontal (broad); valuable news will be more vertical, like great mags #editorchat

[21:46:50] GinaLaGuardia: @shortformernie Good point. With so much out there, making content alluring enough to charge for it the great challenge #editorchat

[21:47:22] spencerspellman: @JaneFriedman Yes I completely agree. Well stated! #editorchat

[21:47:30] booksandcorsets: @MicheleBlueston It’s not a generational thing, it’s a who has the power to make the decisions. CEOs are of all generations #editorchat

[21:47:35] LydiaBreakfast: @judywriter Not necessarily, I’m an Xer, my dad is a boomer (and Woodstock hippie) I totally get not all of you are like that. #editorchat

[21:47:43] spencerspellman: RT @JaneFriedman Content must aggregate from masses of content, or offer trust/authority, or have a quality that’s value for $$ #editorchat

[21:48:02] wordful: @shortformernie @milehighfool Agreed, but there seems to lack a team effort on this. Hard for individual publishers to keep up #editorchat

[21:48:05] milehighfool: Can we as writers do anything to help push these innovations? It’s our responsibility to close the generation gap, yes? #editorchat

[21:48:11] JMegonigal: RT @milehighfool: not sure we’ve ever generated a mechanism for measuring value in publishing. Circulation doesn’t equal value. #editorchat

[21:48:19] sooutdoors: #editorchat I have to scoot. As always a great exchange with great moderators. Drop by and visit at http://www.sooutdoors.ca

[21:48:26] JaneFriedman: @JaySlacks Being sub-driven means MUCH higher sub prices, in many cases. Circs are artificially high to support ad dollars #editorchat

[21:48:37] spencerspellman: @milehighfool What do you think is the measure of value? #editorchat

[21:48:39] JaySlacks: @Brendacopeland I think there are many people that fail in business because they are horrible at being greedy. #editorchat

[21:49:13] LydiaBreakfast: @sooutdoors Thanks Lloyd have a great night! #editorchat

[21:49:17] judywriter: @LydiaBreakfast Thank heavens for that! I was listening to the Lettermen & Beach Boys during Woodstock. Big difference! LOL #editorchat

[21:49:32] marciamarcia: It’s not a generational thing, it’s who has the power to make the decisions. CEOs are of all generations. via @booksandcorsets #editorchat

[21:49:36] milehighfool: @spencerspellman Content that inspires action in some form. Action is measurable. #editorchat

[21:49:36] GLHancock: @milehighfool Why MUST we close the “generation gap”? #editorchat

[21:49:45] JMegonigal: @milehighfool Circulation equaling value is a MARKETING concept. Marketing = ads. Ads = Where the future does NOT lie. πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[21:49:49] GinaLaGuardia: @JDEbberly @shortformernie Vanna, can I buy an “IS?” –> “IS the great challenge.” Sigh. #editorchat

[21:49:57] thisdog: ) #buslines here #editorchat tweet them? @SpecialDee riding the bus is cool.

[21:50:21] judywriter: I’m staying out of the revenue discussion. #editorchat

[21:50:23] SpecialDee: #editorchat Community wants high school supplement of seniors & Top 10 but advertisers won’t support cost of printing/staff time. What then?

[21:51:00] milehighfool: @GinaLaGuardia Ah, yes. The price of real-time. It ensnares me all the time. #editorchat

[21:51:22] SpecialDee: @thisdog #editorchat And you would think advertisers would be lining up to advertise in a school bus schedule that 70% of community reads.

[21:51:29] GinaLaGuardia: I’m seeing this model work for clients -> RT @milehighfool: Content that inspires action in some form. Action is measurable. #editorchat

[21:51:42] JaySlacks: @milehighfool I don’t think its our responsibility, but I think good writers will push these innovations naturally and hopfully #editorchat

[21:51:47] GinaLaGuardia: @milehighfool Makes me twitch πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[21:52:17] spencerspellman: @milehighfool That’s a great way to put it. I’m a big fan of writing in a call to action style. #editorchat

[21:52:22] CurtMonash: Am I late to #editorchat? Anyhow, I have much monetization/media-future stuff up at http://www.texttechnologies.com

[21:52:31] milehighfool: Killjoy warning. At 9:55 pm we’ll open it back up for introductions a link if you’d like. #editorchat

[21:52:42] hinder: RT: @ GLHancock Why MUST we close the “generation gap”? #editorchat I agree each gen has insights to add, we need it all.

[21:52:58] JMegonigal: @SpecialDee If community = readers, isn’t it pub’s “duty” to serve reader?If ads won’t pay, still doesn’t change the bottom line #editorchat

[21:53:07] JDEbberly: RT @milehighfool: Killjoy warning. At 9:55 pm we’ll open it back up for introductions a link if you’d like. #editorchat

[21:53:15] merylkevans: @milehighfool Dang! These chats go way too fast! #editorchat

[21:53:41] dawndsokol: What gets me is that better technology was supposed to help w/ costs, yet it’s STILL unfeasible to think newspapers can profit.#editorchat

[21:53:43] CurtMonash: #editorchat I think it’s proven that nobody knows the One Right Revenue model. Different ways will work for different pubs.

[21:53:57] JMegonigal: @milehighfool I’m selling “Electrocute the Killjoy” t-shirts in the back of the room #editorchat

[21:53:59] merylkevans: RT: @ GLHancock Why MUST we close the “generation gap”? We don’t! Even generations have diversity within. #editorchat

[21:54:00] milehighfool: @BeckyDMBR Certainly online. Say I write a story about a stock and you then click to rate it in CAPS. Value was created. #editorchat

[21:54:01] LydiaBreakfast: Just for the record, no one said anything about having to close the gen. gap – only here to discuss best practices #editorchat

[21:54:21] JaneFriedman: @JMegonigal Agree, the publication’s duty is to ALWAYS serve the reader. Need genuine value, engagement, authenticity #editorchat

[21:54:49] JaneFriedman: RT @CurtMonash: #editorchat I think it’s proven that nobody knows the One Right Revenue model. Different ways will work for different pubs.

[21:55:00] JDEbberly: @merylkevans Time flies when you’re havin’ fun in Editorchat πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[21:55:32] shortformernie: My last tweet didn’t go through, but we should definitely team up, bloggers. Why not? We all think the same way. (thx @wordful) #editorchat

[21:55:34] LydiaBreakfast: @JMegonigal Ha ha ha! #editorchat

[21:55:42] milehighfool: @JMegonigal DM me for an address. I want one. #editorchat

[21:55:43] bweikle: @milehighfool Tricky thing with micropayments, etc., would we all have to get together like OPEC leaders & say “OK charge now!”? #editor

[21:55:55] CitiesCheap: RT @JaneFriedman @JMegonigal Agree, publication’s duty to ALWAYS serve the reader. Need genuine value, engagement, authenticity #editorchat

[21:55:58] spencerspellman: Alright folks, thanks for letting me popin for a few. Good night! #editorchat

[21:56:06] thisdog: #editorchat where are bus ridership numbers locally? Up or down? Has free fare friday helped? Infrastructure needs unanswered? @SpecialDee

[21:56:06] CurtMonash: #editorchat In fact, think in business silos. Different parts of a newspaper may evolve in different business-model directions.

[21:56:23] milehighfool: @bweikle Right, like the airlines. Not the best example of a model to follow. #editorchat

[21:56:36] JDEbberly: RT @CurtMonash: #editorchat In fact, think in business silos. Different parts of a newspaper may evolve in different business-model dire …

[21:56:50] shortformernie: @milehighfool I was stuck in an airport for six hours Sunday. *gah* #editorchat

[21:57:03] LydiaBreakfast: OK kids, don’t forget that editorchat will be back for more fun next week, and you can catch up with the transcript on the blog #editorchat

[21:57:03] CitiesCheap: HA! Feels like it: RT @bweikle “with micropayments, would we all have to get together like OPEC leaders & say “OK charge now!”?&quo

[21:57:09] GLHancock: All this bodes even narrower niches. Is that good, bad, neither? #editorchat

[21:57:14] JMegonigal: @milehighfool Sure. Just hit your F6 button…. ::bwah hah hah ha: #editorchat

[21:57:30] JDEbberly: RT @GLHancock: All this bodes even narrower niches. Is that good, bad, neither? #editorchat

[21:57:39] jenwillis: Sorry I missed #editorchat today. 😦

[21:57:42] hotspringer: Speaking of records: American Idol melts generation gap. Emerging voices paired w/ mature. Audience engaged. Sponsors elated. #editorchat

[21:57:47] milehighfool: Well, it’s that time. Great chat everyone. Stay as long as you’d like but now’s the time for reintros and a link. #editorchat

[21:57:47] LydiaBreakfast: Let’s all re-intro ourselves and give links to your pubs #editorchat

[21:57:57] SpecialDee: #editorchat Newspapers are in business.

[21:57:59] JaneFriedman: @GLHancock Niches are good! That’s the future, anyway. #editorchat

[21:58:08] wordful: @shortformernie I’m thinking the same way. Team effort among bloggers who understand, appreciate new and old publishing models #editorchat

[21:58:42] waltyates: Night #editorchat friends!

[21:58:50] shortformernie: Ernie Smith, editor of ShortFormBlog @ http://shortformblog.com/Β  e-mail me at info@shortformblog.com if you wanna team up #editorchat

[21:58:59] SuburbNews: Interesting RT@CurtMonash think in business silos. Different parts of newspaper may evolve in different business-model direction #editorchat

[21:59:04] LydiaBreakfast: @waltyates Good night Walt thanks for coming #editorchat

[21:59:06] milehighfool: @hotspringer (Applause.) Now *that’s* the way to close. #editorchat

[21:59:10] SpecialDee: @LydiaBreakfast @milehighfool Great #editorchat 2nite and thanks for moderating. Special Sections Editor, Maine.

[21:59:12] wordful: @GLHancock Narrower niches = better #editorchat

[21:59:19] shortformernie: I also work at the Wash. Post Express, too, BTW, so I hopefully know my stuff. πŸ˜€ #editorchat

[21:59:20] CurtMonash: #editorchat There are surely synergies across niches, but generalist pubs must become niche boutiques.

[21:59:21] JMegonigal: Jordana Megonigal, editor-in-chief of Upstate S.C. biz publication http://www.insideblackbox.com #editorchat

[21:59:35] milehighfool: @shortformernie You’ll be hearing from me for sure, Ernie. #editorchat

[21:59:49] LydiaBreakfast: @shortformernie ‘night Ernie, you are just full of great tweets #editorchat

[21:59:52] JDEbberly: JD Ebberly out of DCA;writes pieces on blogging & new media. This the only link you need: https://editorchat.wordpress.com/ #editorchat

[21:59:58] JaneFriedman: Thx everyone – Jane Friedman, Publisher/Editorial Director, Writer’s Digest. http://www.janefriedman.com #editorchat

[22:00:01] CitiesCheap: Night, all. Jennifer Maciejewski, Atlanta-based writer. http://www.CitiesOnTheCheap.com #editorchat

[22:00:01] foleymo: I’m an ex-journalist and current copy editor at a PR agency — http://waggeneredstrom.com | Love lurking on conversation at #editorchat

[22:00:05] GLHancock: @JaneFriedman @wordful Maybe the future is good, but niches did me out of a good career, I suspect. #editorchat

[22:00:08] booksandcorsets: Thanks for hosting #editorchat, it’s always entertaining! Alyssa Smith of Hearst Books; sterlingpublishing.com

[22:00:08] LydiaBreakfast: @JMegonigal I’m gettting back to work now πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[22:00:30] JMegonigal: Interesting addition to tonight’s chat. 40% of Gen Ys want to work in New Media (NOT old media!) http://bit.ly/P6KBT #editorchat

[22:00:32] LydiaBreakfast: @JaneFriedman Thanks for coming Jane #editorchat

[22:00:42] milehighfool: @JaneFriedman Thanks, Jane. See you next week. #editorchat

[22:00:50] Brendacopeland: @JaneFriedman Thank you! That was my first #editorchat and I was a little slow, but it was fun. Do you do it every week?

[22:00:51] LydiaBreakfast: @booksandcorsets Alyssa, thanks so much πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[22:00:52] shortformernie: @milehighfool Please do, man! Please do. #editorchat

[22:00:53] merylkevans: meryl.net, Webworkerdaily.com, others. Alwys looking 2connect w folks not breaking these commandments http://bit.ly/8qUbh #editorchat

[22:00:55] GLHancock: writer/editor/websites for writers at http://www.writers-edge.info and hancockwebsites.com #editorchat

[22:01:01] CurtMonash: #editorchat I’m a tech analyst/blogger/columnist. As a “hobby” I cover online media at http://bit.ly/mQnjZ

[22:01:15] hinder: Thanks everyone. #editorchat Katie – freelance writer, editor for teen mag, hip hop mag, and commercial real estate pub.

[22:01:16] wordful: Charles Bohannan, editor of http://wordful.com. You can contact me at charles-at-wordful.com or @Wordful on Twitter. #editorchat

[22:01:16] JMegonigal: @LydiaBreakfast Better. I’m getting my whip out. It’s somewhere under all these “Electrocute the Killjoy” t-shirts #editorchat

[22:01:20] milehighfool: @booksandcorsets Thanks for participating and sharing your insights, Alyssa. #editorchat

[22:01:48] JDEbberly: THANKS to @milehighfool @LydiaBreakfast and to everyone for another fantastic Editorchat! πŸ™‚ #editorchat

[22:01:54] GinaLaGuardia: Good night, #editorchat… Editorial director specializing in content syndication, SEO copywriting, lots more: http://www.ginalaguardia.com

[22:02:19] wordful: This is a great chat, mahalo (thanks) to @milehighfool and @lydiabreakfast for hosting us. We seem to be getting somewhere! #editorchat

[22:02:46] marciamarcia: Thnks for another great education on #editorchat. http://marciaconner.com, writer w/ FastCo+. Welcome editing & coaching opps on biz themes.

[22:03:19] acnatta: #editorchat I run a hyperlocal in Bham, AL, @bhamterminal | http://bit.ly/IX2J3 getting ready for a redesign too.

[22:04:13] SuburbNews: Reporter, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. And bad mom getting my kids to bed late. AGAIN. #editorchat

[22:04:41] milehighfool: Thanks again everyone. Tim Beyers, your co-host, Motley Fool tech contributor, defending freelancers at timbeyers.com #editorchat

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Written by LydiaBreakfast

May 26, 2009 at 11:42 pm

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