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[20:31:32] milehighfool: And we’re live. Welcome to another edition of #editorchat. Please introduce yourselves as you join.

[20:31:43] shortformernie: Hey all. @milehighfool Got your message, will respond soon. #editorchat

[20:32:40] jennipps: Hi, all!! Jen, fl writer in south Oklahoma, specializing in creativity, writing, plus-size issues, and health at the moment. #editorchat

[20:32:47] shortformernie: Howdy hey! Ernie Smith, editor, ShortFormBlog — that’s http://shortformblog.com — and designer, Wash. Post Express. #editorchat

[20:33:12] milehighfool: @shortformernie Awesome. Thanks, Ernie. Glad you could make it tonight. #editorchat

[20:33:30] anndouglas: Please use http://www.twittersnooze.com if you want to filter my #editorchat tweets for the next couple of hours.

[20:33:31] milehighfool: @jennipps Welcome back, Jen. Glad you could make it. #editorchat

[20:33:37] hotspringer: Rebecca McCormick, freelance travel and feature writer from Hot Springs, Ark. #editorchat

[20:34:04] jennipps: @milehighfool And I’m not house- or dog-sitting tonight, so I should be able to be here for the whole thing. ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[20:34:05] GLHancock: Georganna in San Diego, proud of the Padres, reading the Union-Tribune, writing, editing, and fooling around with websites #editorchat

[20:34:19] AuldHouse: #editorchat by night launching AuldHouse Publishing focusing on how-to content in ebook format

[20:34:19] jennipps: @hotspringer Hi, Rebecca! Good to see you. ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[20:34:22] merylkevans: Texas gal who doesn’t have a tattoo and loves to play with words both for a living as writer / editor and for fun. #editorchat

[20:34:24] anndouglas: Hi all. I’m Ann Douglas – author, blogger, magazine columnist, copywriter, etc. #editorchat

[20:35:07] jennipps: @merylkevans That reminds me of a blog post I’ve had simmering for a couple days. Um…the playing with words part, not the tat. #editorchat

[20:35:09] milehighfool: @hotspringer @GLHancock Rebecca, Georganna — welcome. Glad you could makeit. #editorchat

[20:35:17] littlebrownpen: Hi everyone. Nichole Robertson. Freelance writer, blogger, Copy Director for a German organic skin care brand. #editorchat

[20:35:44] jennipps: @anndouglas Hi, Ann. Thanks for the RT earlier. #editorchat

[20:35:54] chriswebb: Hello all. I am an Associate Publisher, John WIley & Sons. #editorchat

[20:36:12] hinder: Howdy all. I’m Katie writer and editor for a handful of publications and websites. #editorchat

[20:36:12] jennipps: @littlebrownpen Did you get a new avatar picture? Looks good. #editorchat

[20:36:15] LydiaBreakfast: Good Evening all, a hearty welcome from your co-host Lydia Dishman, freelance features writer #editorchat

[20:36:29] milehighfool: @littlebrownpen @AuldHouse @merylkevans Hey there. Thanks for joining us tonight. #editorchat

[20:36:48] LydiaBreakfast: @chriswebb Hi Chris, nice to see you thanks for coming #editorchat

[20:36:50] milehighfool: @chriswebb Welcome. Great to have you here. #editorchat

[20:36:58] littlebrownpen: @jennipps I did. I had to get rid of the winter hat. #editorchat

[20:37:08] LydiaBreakfast: @hinder Hey Katie thanks for coming #editorchat

[20:37:29] fixin2: Good evening. I’m Paul, news editor for a small daily newspaper in Mississippi. #editorchat

[20:37:58] milehighfool: @hinder Hey Katie. Good post re: freelancing failure. Valuable lessions for us all, I think. #editorchat

[20:38:00] LydiaBreakfast: @hotspringer Hey Rebecca good to see you #editorchat

[20:38:02] newswise: Greetings everyone at #editorchat – if you need smart news, you should get @newswise http://tinyurl.com/cjl7vw

[20:38:12] LydiaBreakfast: @fixin2 Hi Paul thanks for joining us #editorchat

[20:38:15] ErikSherman: Evening I’m a freelancer, contributing editor at BNET, write for various magazines, and a book here and there #editorchat

[20:38:19] milehighfool: @fixin2 Hi Paul. Glad you could make it. #editorchat

[20:38:26] LydiaBreakfast: @littlebrownpen Nichole you look lovely, with or without your hat #editorchat

[20:38:37] LydiaBreakfast: @ErikSherman Good evening Erik, welcome #editorchat

[20:38:58] littlebrownpen: @LydiaBreakfast Thanks! I was teased quite a bit about it. But I have somewhere between two and three photos of myself. #editorchat

[20:38:59] milehighfool: @ErikSherman Good to see you again, Erik. See the news from Google I/O? I swear it’s the new Macworld. #editorchat

[20:39:04] LydiaBreakfast: @jennipps Jen, good to see you again ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[20:39:24] chriswebb: So as this is my first #editorchat, is there a topic for discussion tonight?

[20:39:45] LydiaBreakfast: @merylkevans hey Meryl, are you attempting three chats tonight? #editorchat

[20:40:08] jennipps: @chriswebb Yep. Either @milehighfool or @LydiaBreakfast will get us started with the first question in a few minutes. #editorchat

[20:40:09] LydiaBreakfast: @chriswebb radical monetization and we’ll start the questions soon #editorchat

[20:40:25] fixin2: @milehighfool @LydiaBreakfast Thanks! Wasn’t sure I could make it; can hang for about 30-40 min. #editorchat

[20:40:33] milehighfool: @chriswebb There is. Radical monetization models in publishing. We’ll get to the Qs shortly. First, let me offer some rules. #editorchat

[20:40:37] SpecialDee: #editorchat Jumping in the convo, Special Sections Editor at Maine newspaper. Hello!

[20:40:51] merylkevans: @LydiaBreakfast Sure am! So far, so good… and trying to add one to my chat list at the moment. #editorchat

[20:40:55] LydiaBreakfast: @fixin2 excellent, tweeps are in and out all the time #editorchat

[20:41:05] milehighfool: Rule No. 1 Observers welcome but #editorchat is for those who are, or those who work with, editors.

[20:41:10] LydiaBreakfast: @SpecialDee Hiya Ms. Dee, thanks for stopping in #editorchat

[20:41:24] milehighfool: Rule No. 2 Stay on topic. #editorchat

[20:41:28] LydiaBreakfast: @merylkevans you are a wonder ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[20:41:36] ErikSherman: @milehighfool Trade shows as news making spots seem to go through phases. #editorchat

[20:42:09] milehighfool: Rule No. 3. Courteous comments, please. (Thank you, sir. Ma’am.) #editorchat

[20:42:19] ErikSherman: @LydiaBreakfast With the way things are going, radical monetization will be anything that works. #editorchat

[20:42:24] milehighfool: Rule No. 4. Spammers will be electrocuted. (Your computer *is* wired, pal.) #editorchat

[20:42:57] milehighfool: Rule No. 5: Refer to the question number when commenting. Q1, Q2, etc. #editorchat

[20:43:03] GLHancock: @ErikSherman tee! hee! That’s what I thought, too! #editorchat

[20:43:11] LydiaBreakfast: @ErikSherman we’ll see what these fine tweeps come up with tonight. The new model may just be found in our chat. #editorchat

[20:43:27] studentoflife: RT @milehighfool Rule No. 4. Spammers will be electrocuted. (Your computer *is* wired, pal.)#editorchat

[20:44:10] milehighfool: @ErikSherman (Wince.) Too true, but we’ll give it a whirl anyhow. We’ve seen some interesting ideas lately. #editorchat

[20:44:27] bacigalupe: Redundant Rule: Keep the comments short #editorchat

[20:44:37] rachelcw: Take 2. Rachel Weingarten – author/marketer/freelance writer/prognosticator & commentator All around helpful person #editorchat

[20:45:15] JDEbberly: Apologies for arriving here late! Traffic is bad here in N VA ๐Ÿ˜ฆ #editorchat

[20:45:21] LydiaBreakfast: @bacigalupe excellent point, thanks for that ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[20:45:51] ErikSherman: @milehighfool One just came into my email inbox – magazines considering iPhone apps. #editorchat

[20:45:52] JDEbberly: I apologize to my followers for excessive tweets as I enter Editorchat, which runs from 830pm to 10pm EST #editorchat

[20:45:59] LydiaBreakfast: @JDEbberly JD you just need to tweet on the side of the road ๐Ÿ˜‰ #editorchat

[20:46:02] milehighfool: @bacigalupe More important yet not a rule: Keep comments relevant. #editorchat

[20:46:05] jennipps: @JDEbberly Good to see you! Glad you made it through the traffic. #editorchat

[20:46:41] milehighfool: @ErikSherman Not surprised, though I like the idea of Kindle DX subscriptions better. #editorchat

[20:46:56] milehighfool: @JDEbberly Glad you could make it, JD. #editorchat

[20:46:56] jennipps: @milehighfool Hm. It kind of is a rule. Goes along with the “Stay on topic” part. #editorchat

[20:47:13] rachelcw: oh yes, my apologies in advance if I seem to be tweeting on high speed, I’m about to enter #editorchat

[20:47:27] LydiaBreakfast: @rachelcw Rachel, welcome! #editorchat

[20:47:36] Dark_Faust: John Blyler, EiC for several technology trade pubs. This is the earliest that I’ve been here in a while. #editorchat

[20:47:41] bacigalupe: So the topic is the topic today? #editorchat

[20:47:42] ErikSherman: @milehighfool And just think – it could be worse. You could be in charge of Sirius XM. #editorchat

[20:47:52] BeckyDMBR: @milehighfool Oh, oh, hey, hey … Becky here from Iow-ay. ๐Ÿ˜‰ #editorchat

[20:47:59] milehighfool: @rachelcw Welcome, Rachel. We can attest to how helpful you are. #editorchat

[20:48:05] LydiaBreakfast: So we are talking radical monetization tonight, in light of shrinking budgets in all media #editorchat

[20:48:19] rachelcw: waves hello to Lydia! thanks #editorchat

[20:48:27] LydiaBreakfast: @BeckyDMBR Wahoo! #editorchat

[20:48:30] shortformernie: @JDEbberly There’s a reason why I live in D.C. proper. ๐Ÿ˜€ #editorchat

[20:48:37] imagirlscout: @kgh23 just found this … You might be interested: Editorchat, which runs from 830pm to 10pm EST #editorchat

[20:48:43] JDEbberly: JD Ebberly here out of N VA – Writes articles on blogging and new media – Glad to be in Editorchat! ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[20:48:48] bacigalupe: What’s radical monetization? (oops, I will be spammed) #editorchat

[20:48:50] GLHancock: A friend asked me if I thought it would be a good idea to give all school kids Kindles and make texts electronic. Cal is broke! #editorchat

[20:48:53] LydiaBreakfast: @shortformernie Hiya Ernie, thanks for dropping in #editorchat

[20:48:55] milehighfool: @ErikSherman Right. The good news: I can’t tan like Mel Karmazin. #editorchat

[20:49:33] marciamarcia: Freelance writer w/ FastCo+, educator, editor, learner, mom, SoMe enthusiast. Thrilled to have a short break to join in on #editorchat

[20:49:36] merylkevans: @JDEbberly Lived in DC for six years… don’t miss the traffic itty bit. #editorchat

[20:49:40] milehighfool: @BeckyDMBR Hey Becky! Glad you could make it. #editorchat

[20:49:43] Dark_Faust: Did anyone see the WSJ article about the shortage of investment analysts? Companies aren’t getting coverage which means lost $$. #editorchat

[20:50:01] Dark_Faust: Similar to the plight of editors in general. #editorchat

[20:50:05] AuldHouse: @bacigalupe I was about to ask the same thing–would like definition. #editorchat

[20:50:22] jennipps: @imagirlscout You’re both welcome to join in #editorchat. (BTW, hi from a fellow Okie.)

[20:50:23] bacigalupe: The #editorchat at the start is like taking off the jackets, picking up a drink, finding a sofa…

[20:50:27] LydiaBreakfast: @Dark_Faust do you have a link? #editorchat

[20:50:30] ErikSherman: @milehighfool That tan is proof of the existence of cyborgs. #editorchat

[20:50:58] milehighfool: What we mean by radical monetization = new or unproven models for monetizing content, be it reporting, books, etc. #editorchat

[20:51:02] LydiaBreakfast: @marciamarcia Hiya Marcia glad you stopped by #editorchat

[20:51:09] KatPowers: Am I late? My computer *is* wired #editorchat

[20:51:15] AuldHouse: @Dark_Faust Do you have a link to that article? #editorchat

[20:51:39] milehighfool: Call this the whiteboard version of Editorchat. We’re looking for successes, faliures, and frankly brand new ideas. #editorchat

[20:51:43] LydiaBreakfast: RT @milehighfool radical monetization = new or unproven models for monetizing content, be it reporting, books, etc. #editorchat

[20:52:27] jennipps: RT @milehighfool radical monetization = new or unproven models for monetizing content, be it reporting, books, etc. #editorchat

[20:52:34] milehighfool: @KatPowers (Bzzzzzzt.) Right on time, Kat. Welcome. #editorchat

[20:52:42] AuldHouse: Ah, well here’s the rub. Need cash to fund new monetization products. Funds and budget lacking in these times. #editorchat

[20:52:46] LydiaBreakfast: Radical monetization = new ways to make money. Anyone found any that are working? Can you share. #editorchat

[20:52:47] bacigalupe: fav @milehighfool radical monetization = new or unproven models for monetizing content, be it reporting, books, etc. #editorchat

[20:53:20] marciamarcia: Steeped in issues around organization culture & social media, reminded culture can be blamed (credited?) for lack of new models #editorchat

[20:53:34] shortformernie: Ultimately, we need to figure out way to get people for the razor blades while making the razor itself pretty cheap. #editorchat

[20:54:01] JDEbberly: Would Interactive Learning Environments (ILE’s) count as radical monetization? #editorchat

[20:54:03] milehighfool: RT @LydiaBreakfast: Radical monetization = new ways to make money. Anyone found any that are working? Can you share? #editorchat

[20:54:27] jennipps: @LydiaBreakfast (Is this Q1?) I think it’s been shown revenue-share sites don’t work very well. I can’t think of any that have. #editorchat

[20:54:29] shortformernie: But the question is, where are the blades? It’s not the news. Maybe it’s the content. But it’s not the news. #editorchat

[20:54:40] milehighfool: @JDEbberly In what way, JD. #editorchat

[20:55:05] milehighfool: Some background for this why this topic and why now … #editorchat

[20:55:17] wordful: @shortformernie Good point, Ernie #editorchat

[20:55:45] LydiaBreakfast: @jennipps It is Q1 we just jumped right in tonight #editorchat

[20:55:47] milehighfool: James Surowiecki (New Yorker, The Wisdom of Crowds) recently did an analysis that found distressed times are best to invest. #editorchat

[20:55:54] shortformernie: Oh yeah. #rev20h is incredibly relevant to this: http://www.revenuetwopointzero.com/ #editorchat

[20:56:11] milehighfool: So we wondered: How are publishers investing? #editorchat

[20:56:13] jennipps: @LydiaBreakfast THought it might be. I looked away for a minute, so I wasn’t 100% sure. #editorchat

[20:56:17] JDEbberly: @milehighfool You take content, repackage it using multimedia and sell memberships. #editorchat

[20:56:35] Dark_Faust: @LydiaBreakfast Here’s a couple links: http://bit.ly/rPOmU http://bit.ly/42BlH #editorchat

[20:56:37] GLHancock: The guy in CSM might have something there about value. People aren’t going to pay for crap, unless it’s porn or hot gossip. #editorchat

[20:56:48] JDEbberly: @milehighfool Brian Clark of Copyblogger fame runs an ILE known as Teaching Sells #editorchat

[20:56:56] bacigalupe: @milehighfool is anyone making money in anyway these days? (couldn’t resist, no need to reply) #editorchat

[20:57:14] rachelcw: Q1: stop thinking only of publishers or one biz model. Instead explore new talents/rusty ones & use as new ways for outreach #editorchat

[20:57:16] milehighfool: We know, for example, that the New York Times just fired a social media editor. How do you glean value from that role? #editorchat

[20:57:28] Dark_Faust: Where’s my headshot? Guess Twitter isn’t smart enough to resize graphics. Founders need to invest in tool features #editorchat

[20:57:29] SpecialDee: #editorchat News organizations employ multitalented people – use their skills: offer services to local businesses

[20:57:40] AuldHouse: @GLHancock LOL. #editorchat

[20:57:55] milehighfool: Wait. I said “fired.” That should have read “hired.” Sticky fingers. #editorchat

[20:58:06] wordful: @milehighfool isn’t that hired and not fired? #editorchat

[20:58:21] hotspringer: @milehighfool. Fired or hired? #editorchat

[20:58:25] SpecialDee: #editorchat News organizations employ talented graphic designers – market their skills to local businesses

[20:58:34] rachelcw: @milehighfool prescient fingers? #editorchat

[20:58:36] shortformernie: @milehighfool That’s kind of a minor difference there =) #editorchat

[20:58:43] milehighfool: @wordful Yep. Good catch, Charles. Sorry about that. #editorchat

[20:58:57] jennipps: @milehighfool Would the social media editor be similar to a community manager (such as what @DebNg does for BlogTalkRadio)? #editorchat

[20:58:57] BeckyDMBR: @milehighfool Fired? Or hired? #editorchat

[20:59:02] lauriemeisel: @milehighfool You did mean hired a social media editor. I think it is the NYT way of catching up with the pulse of the industry #editorchat

[20:59:14] Dark_Faust: @AuldHouse #editorchat See if you can get in to WSJ: http://bit.ly/hAdl

[20:59:38] milehighfool: @rachelcw Oy. Don’t say that — I don’t want to be responsible for a karmic freight train bearing down on an inncoent tweeter. #editorchat

[20:59:42] marciamarcia: News organizations employ multitalented people. Use their skills: offer services to local businesses via @SpecialDee #editorchat

[20:59:58] merylkevans: What surprised me about NYTimes hire — she had a lot of private accts in SM. Is she really the best person? #editorchat

[21:00:13] LydiaBreakfast: @jennipps I don’t think so, community editors build the community around the readers’ engagement #editorchat

[21:00:14] jennipps: I think what can be gotten out of such a role depends on what the person hired puts into it. Got a slug=get no benefit. #editorchat

[21:00:18] wordful: Seems like there’s a real gap between large news media and small blogger media — the bloggers are making money, others aren’t #editorchat

[21:00:19] milehighfool: @lauriemeisel Yes, that’s what I meant. Damn you, tasty chicken and your finger-sticking goodness! #editorchat

[21:00:28] SpecialDee: #editorchat Market your writing skills to businesses; perhaps this falls under Advertising Dept. – write biz brochures/marketing stuff

[21:00:44] milehighfool: RT @merylkevans: What surprised me about NYTimes hire — she had a lot of private accts in SM. Is she really the best person? #editorchat

[21:01:01] jennipps: @LydiaBreakfast OK. Just wanting to be able to differentiate well enough for chat purposes. ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[21:01:35] JenniferPerillo: Hi folks. Jennifer, food editor at Working Mother. Will probably just sit on the sidelines tonight. Oh, the deadlines. #editorchat

[21:01:38] milehighfool: @wordful That’s the issue. What we want to know is why. Why are the bloggers making money? What models are they using? #editorchat

[21:01:39] ErikSherman: @wordful Not that many bloggers are making money, but I’m not sure that’s different from publishing in general. #editorchat

[21:01:41] SpecialDee: #editorchat Work with the local schools and colleges: give workshops (for a fee) on writing, reporting, journalism, multimedia

[21:01:46] rachelcw: @milehighfool Never! Sometimes tho there are seismic initial shake-ups that can’t be helped as they figure out how it all works #editorchat

[21:01:48] littlebrownpen: @wordful I agree. I know bloggers who make money. Ad revenue, related writing gigs, leveraging their following, etc. #editorchat

[21:02:03] wordful: Those big organizations aren’t adapting fast enough b/c they’re too big and old-school. NYT just now getting a SM editor is late #editorchat

[21:02:10] milehighfool: @lauriemeisel Agreed. @LydiaBreakfast and I are big fans of @shirleybrady. #editorchat

[21:02:21] Dark_Faust: Is Twitter slow for anyone else? #editorchat

[21:02:23] wordful: @ErikSherman Sure, not many making money but there are ones who are doing very well at it #editorchat

[21:02:37] LydiaBreakfast: @merylkevans maybe that is why she got the job? People used to pad resumes, now they add more SM accounts #editorchat

[21:02:45] bacigalupe: We are in a period of experimentation, how the money will be made is up in this business environment is up for grabs, isn’t it? #editorchat

[21:03:06] wordful: @milehighfool The model is there, it’s freely available but you find it by being on the ground level, not so high up in the corp #editorchat

[21:03:15] SpecialDee: Twitter is very slow (using TweetDeck) wonder if that makes a difference from using browser? #editorchat

[21:03:15] LydiaBreakfast: @JenniferPerillo He Jennifer, we feel you. Just chime in if you can. #editorchat

[21:03:19] milehighfool: @wordful But is it too late? NYT has a killer brand on Twitter. Could its tweets be monetized? Pay for access to the feed? #editorchat

[21:03:35] jennipps: @Dark_Faust It’s been slow off & on all afternoon. #editorchat

[21:03:52] AuldHouse: @bacigalupe So True! #editorchat

[21:03:57] milehighfool: @bacigalupe No question. What experiments do you see working? Which aren’t? #editorchat

[21:03:59] bacigalupe: Not sure why the NYT is often used as an example, may be The Economist is a better one #editorchat

[21:04:22] lauriemeisel: @wordful You are right, larger old-school orgs tend to be late adopters. #editorchat Then they find themselves having to play catch-up.

[21:04:26] shortformernie: @wordful That ground level comment plays into what I said last night about the slowly decentralizing market for journalists. #editorchat

[21:04:47] ErikSherman: @milehighfool I think pay for tweet feed access wouldn’t work. Not *everything* has to be monetized. #editorchat

[21:04:53] BeckyDMBR: @milehighfool But will tweeps pay for tweets? Would you? #editorchat

[21:05:01] GLHancock: @milehighfool I hate to say but it looks like the narrower the niche, the greater chance for success. #editorchat

[21:05:02] SpecialDee: #editorchat Advertisers sponsor theme-based portals which are windows to outside links to blogs, forums, etc based on a topic such as health

[21:05:08] LydiaBreakfast: @bacigalupe @milehighfool wonder if @johnabyrne is thinking the same thing re: BusinessWeek #editorchat

[21:05:11] shortformernie: Regarding making money, Maybe it’s not about working at the NYT anymore. Maybe it’s about hustling to make your bread. #editorchat

[21:05:24] milehighfool: @shortformernie Love that. “Slowly decentralizing marke” — a perfect market for freelancers, in other words. #editorchat

[21:05:28] jennipps: RT @ErikSherman @milehighfool I think pay for tweet feed access wouldn’t work. Not *everything* has to be monetized. #editorchat

[21:05:35] wordful: @milehighfool Don;t think monetized tweets could work. Maybe they just have to accept that they won’t be the big guys anymore #editorchat

[21:05:48] AuldHouse: RT@GLHancock: @milehighfool I hate to say but it looks like the narrower the niche, the greater chance for success. #editorchat

[21:05:49] bacigalupe: @milehighfool @NPR no doubt, a radio becoming a form of mixed media, lot written stuff, recording, in-depth stuff, etc. #editorchat

[21:05:52] rachelcw: @ErikSherman @Profnet has an interesting balance. Pay for Profnet and some urgent freebie Tweets #editorchat

[21:05:52] fixin2: @milehighfool I understand the thought to make $ on Twitter, but I like it that it’s free; hope it stays that way somehow. #editorchat

[21:06:21] milehighfool: @GLHancock That’s the secret for blogs. But not everyone can specialize. General interest magazines like Harpers are still OK. #editorchat

[21:06:34] littlebrownpen: RT @AuldHouse @GLHancock @milehighfool I hate to say but it looks like the narrower the niche, the greater chance for success #editorchat

[21:06:47] JDEbberly: RT @GLHancock: @milehighfool I hate to say but it looks like the narrower the niche, the greater chance for success. #editorchat

[21:07:02] bacigalupe: @GLHancock rather than thinking of narrower, we should think of higher expertise, it can cover a lot one knows there is depth #editorchat

[21:07:06] LydiaBreakfast: Agreed RT @milehighfool That’s the secret for blogs. But not everyone can specialize. #editorchat

[21:07:12] GLHancock: How about pay for tweets? Like the older PPP? #editorchat

[21:07:34] milehighfool: @wordful Would you if you were a reporter at the NYT? #editorchat

[21:08:04] wordful: @shortformernie Exactly! I completely agree Ernie. NYTimes can’t be the 900-lb gorilla and expect to be profitable anymore #editorchat

[21:08:12] SpecialDee: #editorchat Part of the formula is being important to your local market.

[21:08:17] ErikSherman: @rachelcw True – a market that badly wants the message. But most content doesn’t have that degree of monetary urgency. #editorchat

[21:08:24] Dark_Faust: #editorchat Repacked content only works with “new” audiences. And it doesn’t work well in Asia since content is so easily pirated.

[21:08:36] milehighfool: @bacigalupe Right. Isn’t mixed-media an opportunity? Aren’t there levels of content that could be monetized differently? #editorchat

[21:08:40] merylkevans: @LydiaBreakfast I repeatedly advise people to find niche though I don’t have niche. I like it that way and doing A-OK. #editorchat

[21:08:51] wordful: @milehighfool I suppose I’d get out while I can and stop relying on them for my livelihood #editorchat

[21:08:51] fixin2: @GLHancock I really think charging for access would kill the medium; it’s sort of like the Wild West now and it’s fun that way. #editorchat

[21:09:00] JenniferPerillo: @littlebrownpen Bingo! Rev isn’t just ads. It’s also work that comes as result of blog & using SM exp 2 do consulting in field. #editorchat

[21:09:11] shortformernie: @wordful Totally. There’s a reason why musicians at indie labels are thriving and the major labels are struggling. #editorchat

[21:09:33] LydiaBreakfast: @merylkevans I’m probably one of the last general assignment reports standing. And I like that a lot ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[21:09:36] milehighfool: @ErikSherman So how do we change that? I agree that content doesn’t usually force action and demand compensation. #editorchat

[21:09:40] ErikSherman: @LydiaBreakfast Even “generalists” tend to have a number of specialties. Newspaper sections are essentially specialized. #editorchat

[21:09:44] shortformernie: Are you guys familiar with the idea of creative destruction? It’s totally relevant here. #editorchat

[21:09:49] bacigalupe: Compare: NYT today: http://tinyurl.com/unicycles & my blog entry weeks ago: http://blogs.umb.edu/bacigalupe what’s better? #editorchat

[21:10:02] milehighfool: @wordful Ouch. Love yur honesty, Charles. (Like your blog, too.) #editorchat

[21:10:05] merylkevans: @LydiaBreakfast Generals unite! High five! #editorchat

[21:10:24] SpecialDee: #editorchat I’m not going 2 the NYT for news happening in Lewiston, Maine. I’ll google Lewiston, Maine 2 find news which will lead 2 paper.

[21:10:26] AuldHouse: @merylkevans There is always room for good generalists. They can usually spot trends very well. #editorchat

[21:10:29] GLHancock: @fixin2 NOT charge for access. Paid to tweet. I’m sure it is already happening! #editorchat

[21:10:33] milehighfool: @shortformernie Completely. Hence the term “radical” for this discussion. Everything has to be on the table, no? #editorchat

[21:10:38] wordful: @milehighfool Thanks, Tim ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[21:10:41] LydiaBreakfast: @merylkevans *smack, smack* #editorchat

[21:11:00] marciamarcia: I’m reminded of something Bill Gates said in the early 90s, “Information for free. Services for fee.” #editorchat

[21:11:09] jennipps: RT @AuldHouse @merylkevans There is always room for good generalists. They can usually spot trends very well. #editorchat

[21:11:20] AuldHouse: @merylkevans Speaking as a generalist of course. #editorchat

[21:11:37] shortformernie: @marciamarcia In other words, make people pay for the tools. #editorchat

[21:11:43] milehighfool: Example: Much as I think Wired’s Chris Anderson is brilliant, I wonder if free content is just an excuse to sucker punch readers #editorchat

[21:11:50] wordful: There are established/experimental ways to monetize content but the people doing it are too busy/pioneering to standardize it #editorchat

[21:12:01] milehighfool: RT @marciamarcia: I’m reminded of something Bill Gates said in the early 90s, “Information for free. Services for fee.” #editorchat

[21:12:12] fixin2: @GLHancock Ah! Sry! Misunderstood. Freelance or personal tweeters! Ha! Kind of like personal shopping! I think I like that. #editorchat

[21:12:15] shortformernie: Unfortunately, newspapers aren’t sure where the tools are anymore. #editorchat

[21:12:18] LydiaBreakfast: Let’s get to Q2 speaking of free content Writers: are publishers plying you with new pay ideas? What’s the craziest pay model? #editorchat

[21:12:28] bacigalupe: @milehighfool yes, there is an opportunity there but I am not a business person so cannot say, clearly it has an audience though #editorchat

[21:12:38] wordful: In other words, not very many bloggers are visionary and competent editors…yet #editorchat

[21:12:38] milehighfool: @marciamarcia Make readers pay when there’s something actionable in the content. #editorchat

[21:12:39] JDEbberly: RT @AuldHouse @merylkevans There is always room for good generalists. They can usually spot trends very well. #editorchat

[21:12:57] JDEbberly: RT @marciamarcia: I’m reminded of something Bill Gates said in the early 90s, “Information for free. Services for fee.” #editorchat

[21:13:31] chiefhotmomma: RT @marciamarcia: I’m reminded of something Bill Gates said in the early 90s, “Information for free. Services for fee.” #editorchat

[21:13:32] BetterWriters: craziest pay model is “free” (late to join) Having a hard time finding paying work. #editorchat

[21:13:34] milehighfool: RT @LydiaBreakfast: Q2 Writers: are publishers plying you with new pay ideas? What’s the craziest pay model? #editorchat

[21:13:37] wordful: @shortformernie Can you elaborate on creative destruction? #editorchat

[21:13:39] AuldHouse: @marciamarcia And yet now in many cases services are free! #editorchat

[21:13:48] ErikSherman: @milehighfool Anderson thinks that some, not all, should be free… #editorchat

[21:13:48] GLHancock: I would never have remained generalist if I could have spotted the niche trend soon enough! #editorchat

[21:13:48] anndouglas: @marciamarcia So in other words, pay for access to the platform or tools you need to manipulate the info. #editorchat

[21:13:50] jennipps: Q2 – It may be crazy; it’s not new: Write for “exposure.” Um…since when does “exposure” pay the bills/put food on the table? #ed

[21:14:14] LydiaBreakfast: @BetterWriters you are not alone in being asked that – insulting really, but all to common. #editorchat

[21:14:16] fixin2: RT @wordful: In other words, not very many bloggers are visionary and competent editors…yet #editorchat

[21:14:38] ErikSherman: @milehighfool Many publications made everything free, reducing perceived value of stories to zero. Nothing left to charge for. #editorchat

[21:14:51] hotspringer: Exposure efforts in wrong direction: Naked News, Helium, pay-to-play interns. #editorchat

[21:14:54] AuldHouse: @milehighfool I love Chris Anderson, but even Long Tail has been proven to not work. #editorchat

[21:15:04] ErikSherman: @LydiaBreakfast Q2: Craziest model – write for exposure. #editorchat

[21:15:12] milehighfool: @BetterWriters Shouldn’t *some* content be free — stuff that can be found plenty of other places? #editorchat

[21:15:14] mariaschneider: The free content model only works if you have a viable product or service to sell alongside. #editorchat. #editorchat

[21:15:18] shortformernie: @wordful It’s an early 20th century philosophy. Basically big dogs are always being taken down by clever, intuitive little dogs. #editorchat

[21:15:27] jennipps: @ErikSherman So often people don’t appreciate what they don’t pay for. This might be a prime example of that. #editorchat

[21:15:49] LydiaBreakfast: Q2 Writers: are publishers plying you with new pay ideas? What’s the craziest pay model you’ve tried? #editorchat

[21:16:09] GLHancock: Q2: Pay to be an intern blogger at Huffington Post. #editorchat

[21:16:10] shortformernie: @wordful Silicon Valley is a great example of this. Companies rise and fall there all the time because of oneupmanship. #editorchat

[21:16:13] lauriemeisel: RT @jennipps Q2 – It may be crazy; it’s not new: Write for “exposure.” When does “exposure” pay the bills/put food on the table? #

[21:16:23] wordful: @shortformernie I like that word “always” in there…gives a sense of imminence #editorchat

[21:16:31] milehighfool: @mariaschneider Precisely. Also, I wonder if we’re giving away content we shouldn’t simply because of long-held beliefs. #editorchat

[21:16:49] BetterWriters: @milehighfool Content I put on my own blog is free. If other sites are getting ad rev, then they should pay writers. #editorchat

[21:16:53] AuldHouse: be back, child demanding attention #editorchat.

[21:16:57] JDEbberly: RT @jennipps Q2- It may be crazy; it’s not new: Write for “exposure.” When does “exposure” pay the bills/put food on the table? #

[21:17:07] milehighfool: @shortformernie So, along those lines, should newspapers and magazines have an R7D department? I say yes. #editorchat

[21:17:08] fixin2: Gotta peel out folks; it’s been fun! Paul, news editor for small Mississippi daily. Later! #editorchat

[21:17:23] LydiaBreakfast: @GLHancock @milehighfool has written about both the HuffPo internships and Helium brilliantly in his blog posts #editorchat

[21:17:27] ErikSherman: Q2: exposure only makes sense if you’re exposed to potential clients. Otherwise, fooling self into thinking marketing. #editorchat

[21:17:32] milehighfool: @BetterWriters That’s an issue of ownership and I agree wholeheartedly. #editorchat

[21:17:34] BetterWriters: Also I do guest blogging for friends to get more traffic to my blog, but I don’t see that as the same thing. #editorchat

[21:17:37] hjarche: RT @marciamarcia I’m reminded of something Bill Gates said in the early 90s, Information for free. Services for fee. #editorchat

[21:17:40] jennipps: Q2 – The “pay” model at today.com is nuts, too. $1/post (max 1 post a day) unless you post everyday, then you get dropped. #editorchat

[21:17:53] hotspringer: Q2. When someone asks if I write for exposure, I answer: “Perhaps I can find someone just starting out to help you.” #editorchat

[21:17:54] JDEbberly: @fixin2 Thanks for dropping by! Looking forward to seeing you here next Wednesday night! ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[21:17:55] shortformernie: @milehighfool The reason why the NYT will weather the storm is that they have a R&D department. #editorchat

[21:17:58] milehighfool: @fixin2 Thanks, Paul. Join us again. #editorchat

[21:18:03] jennipps: @fixin2 Sorry you have to go, Paul. Good to see you, though. #editorchat

[21:18:22] shortformernie: @milehighfool The companies cutting everything (Gannett, Tribune) — those are the ones in trouble. #editorchat

[21:18:44] ErikSherman: @milehighfool R&D combined with *real* market research, not simply focus groups. #editorchat

[21:18:46] milehighfool: RT @hotspringer: Q2.When someone asks if I write for exposure, I say: “Perhaps I can find someone just starting out to help you. #editorchat

[21:18:48] wordful: @shortformernie great video here of that concept as Seth Godin interviews Richard Branson on small vs. big http://hex.io/11di #editorchat

[21:19:08] littlebrownpen: Q2. Simply peruse the job listings for writers at craigslist. Start ups want you to build their business out of kindness #editorchat

[21:19:09] LydiaBreakfast: RT @jennipps Q2- “pay” model at today.com is nuts, too. $1/post (max 1 post a day) unless you post everyday, then get dropped #editorchat

[21:19:21] JenniferPerillo: @LydiaBreakfast Q2: Esp insulting when they try to entice u with link to blog. Finally comf w/saying “No TY” to such offers #editorchat

[21:19:29] mariaschneider: A few bloggers who get the free content model: copyblogger, Seth Godin, Chris Brogan. Watch them for ideas. #editorchat

[21:19:31] milehighfool: @shortformernie Agreed. TimesReader is a good example of innovation at work at the NYT. #editorchat

[21:19:55] wordful: @milehighfool I suppose I’m a little harsh on NYT because I’m so far removed from their world. But I certainly respect them lots #editorchat

[21:20:02] jennipps: @hotspringer Actually…I wouldn’t refer someone starting out. Someone gets used to getting work done for free & won’t pay later #editorchat

[21:20:03] JDEbberly: RT @milehighfool: @shortformernie Agreed. TimesReader is a good example of innovation at work at the NYT. #editorchat

[21:20:15] BeckyDMBR: @shortformernie Those companies have been in trouble for years. #editorchat

[21:20:21] milehighfool: @JenniferPerillo Good for you. Your work is more valuable than that. Recipes, especially. That’s unique work that demands pay. #editorchat

[21:20:26] JDEbberly: RT @mariaschneider: A few bloggers who get the free content model: copyblogger, Seth Godin, Chris Brogan. Watch them for ideas. #editorchat

[21:20:35] ErikSherman: @shortformernie NYT may *not* make it – finances too shaky. #editorchat

[21:20:45] jennipps: @littlebrownpen But be careful about scams on Craigslist. A good site for job leads, too, is http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com. #editorchat

[21:20:55] LydiaBreakfast: @JenniferPerillo Excellent! We all need to be able to say no to “PIE” (paid in exposure) #editorchat

[21:21:05] fixin2: @JDEbberly @milehighfool Thanks y’all! And good to see you too @jennipps! Time to get @PrincessJadyn ready for bed. Bye! #editorchat

[21:21:32] JDEbberly: http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com (via @jennipps ) #editorchat

[21:21:44] BeckyDMBR: @jennipps Great point. The more who work for free, the harder it is for anyone to earn $. #editorchat

[21:21:45] wordful: @ErikSherman well even it NYT doesn’t make it their people will do very well if they can adapt quickly afterwards #editorchat

[21:21:48] jennipps: @LydiaBreakfast Sounds like a new slogan to me: Just say NO to PIE. #editorchat

[21:21:48] pontolit: RT @mariaschneider: A few bloggers who get the free content model: copyblogger, Seth Godin, Chris Brogan. Watch them for ideas. #editorchat

[21:21:58] shortformernie: @ErikSherman They’ll figure it out. They have smart people at the water cooler. When you cut back, that’s what goes away. #editorchat

[21:22:00] BetterWriters: What about HuffPost? Is she paying for her content, yet? #editorchat

[21:22:14] GLHancock: Craziest offering: me ghostwrite the book and get a little percentage of royalties. Right! #editorchat

[21:22:15] milehighfool: How about we get a little more radicall. Why shouldn’t a pay-for-play site like WSJ.com also charge for its tweets? #editorchat

[21:22:28] wordful: @BetterWriters I doubt it! #editorchat

[21:22:31] BeckyDMBR: @GLHancock G’night! #editorchat

[21:22:36] jennipps: (Though I say that, but there is one pub I write for free b/c it’s my version of donating to the group.) #editorchat

[21:22:39] LydiaBreakfast: @jennipps maybe we need editorchat bumperstickers and buttons with that slogan #editorchat

[21:22:46] littlebrownpen: I’m floored by the paltry pay for articles. I’ve been spoiled by copywriting rates. #editorchat

[21:22:56] shortformernie: @milehighfool Because a single RT will totally ruin their business model ๐Ÿ˜€ #editorchat

[21:22:57] Dark_Faust: RT @jennipps: Q2 – The “pay” model at today.com is nuts, too. $1/post (max 1 post a day)…How many words per post? #editorchat

[21:22:58] milehighfool: @BetterWriters No. In fact, she’s selling internships. Ask @ErikSherman or read my blog for more on that. Crazy. #editorchat

[21:23:03] jennipps: @LydiaBreakfast We can get ’em through Cafe Press. ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[21:23:09] lauriemeisel: RT @LydiaBreakfast We all need to be able to say no to “PIE” (paid in exposure) #editorchat

[21:23:11] LydiaBreakfast: @littlebrownpen legit outfits pay and pay well. #editorchat

[21:23:13] BetterWriters: @JDEbberly Oh boy. I got into quite a discussion on that site the other day re: fair pay for writers. #editorchat

[21:23:37] ErikSherman: @wordful Many don’t have the business bent and not used to the “real” world. #editorchat

[21:23:43] jennipps: @Dark_Faust When I wrote for them, mine averaged out to about 300-ish words per post. #editorchat

[21:23:44] DavisFreeberg: A la carte journalism will nevre work, ad supported content is on thin ice. Subscription/sponsored journalisms is future #editorchat

[21:23:45] BeckyDMBR: @LydiaBreakfast T-shirts! Coffee mugs! ๐Ÿ˜‰ #editorchat

[21:23:46] BetterWriters: @milehighfool OMG! People are paying HER to write? Good grief. #editorchat

[21:23:48] LydiaBreakfast: @BetterWriters It is a hot button here too. #editorchat

[21:24:03] JenniferPerillo: @littlebrownpen I get more annoyed at startups asking for free. At least big guys already have audience to make it worthwhile #editorchat

[21:24:04] wordful: @BetterWriters Just like being fresh out of college #editorchat

[21:24:12] BeckyDMBR: @shortformernie Yeah, then they’ll sue for RTs. #editorchat

[21:24:31] LydiaBreakfast: Related Q3 Editors: are you being asked to explore new and different pay models? #editorchat

[21:24:42] wordful: @ErikSherman Whoops that was meant to go to you Erik: Just like being fresh out of college #editorchat

[21:24:51] ErikSherman: @milehighfool Because tweets should drive demand. I found myself getting over 900 clicks today on an article that way. #editorchat

[21:24:52] JenniferPerillo: RT @BeckyDMBR: @jennipps Great point. The more who work for free, the harder it is for anyone to earn $. #editorchat

[21:24:53] BetterWriters: Part of the conversation revolved around not understanding why it would take more than 15 minutes to write a blog post. #editorchat

[21:25:06] milehighfool: @shortformernie But what if there were rules for the RT? Can’t you build on top of Twitter? StockTwits has. #editorchat

[21:25:34] DavisFreeberg: @JenniferPerillo In an age of internet fragmentation, there’s no such thing as a small audience #editorchat

[21:25:36] GLHancock: Q? Are our tweets covered by copyright? What about when someone RTs my priceless prose? #editorchat

[21:25:38] milehighfool: RT @LydiaBreakfast: Related Q3 Editors: are you being asked to explore new and different pay models? #editorchat

[21:25:44] JDEbberly: RT @JenniferPerillo: RT @BeckyDMBR: @jennipps Great point. The more who work for free, the harder it is for anyone to earn $. #editorchat

[21:25:45] wordful: @LydiaBreakfast Q3: The only person asking about pay models is myself, so my answer is yes, all day every day all the time! #editorchat

[21:25:56] mironovich: RT @shortformernie: The companies cutting everything (Gannett, Tribune) — those are the ones in trouble. #editorchat

[21:25:59] Dark_Faust: @jennipps I still only pay for articles. But maybe I should consider a different model. Still, tech trade is different #editorchat

[21:26:00] JenniferPerillo: Sorry folks, I should’ve mentioned to tune me out for a bit. Doing #editorchat for next 30 mins.

[21:26:32] shortformernie: Q3: I’m always searching for new ways to make money with SFB. And I haven’t found a good one yet, honestly. #editorchat

[21:27:00] AuldHouse: Q3. Community created content. #editorchat

[21:27:04] wordful: @shortformernie You’ll get there, Ernie. We’re in the same boat. #editorchat

[21:27:08] milehighfool: @ErikSherman Good thinking. I use it as a demand engine as well. #editorchat

[21:27:17] SpecialDee: #editorchat Local businesses still need to advertise their products/services. Print still works for advertisers and readers (coupons, sales)

[21:27:19] jennipps: @Dark_Faust I understand paying for articles rather than posts, but that was the (apparently bogus) agreement w/today.com. #editorchat

[21:27:21] BeckyDMBR: @milehighfool What value do MSM tweets have when they’re already accused of not “getting” Twitter? #editorchat

[21:27:23] Dark_Faust: @DavisFreeberg I tend to agree. Ads still work for us, but subscrip/sponsored journalism is a big growth area for us. #editorchat

[21:27:35] shortformernie: Q3: I’m actually redesigning my post pages to make them more “sticky” at the moment. #editorchat

[21:28:18] rachelcw: apologies- I’m trapped in the lag zone. I’ll have to catch you all next week. Thanks as always @milehighfool @lydiabreakfast #editorchat

[21:28:20] milehighfool: Q3. Anyone using tipping systems like TipJoy and TwitPay? Can micropayments for content work? #editorchat

[21:28:35] ErikSherman: @Dark_Faust Think it has to be subscription. Someone has to pay and online ads don’t pay enough. #editorchat

[21:28:37] LydiaBreakfast: @rachelcw thanks for coming ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[21:28:44] SpecialDee: #editorchat It’s not a definite that Kindle will be the next big tool; look what happened to the floppy, then the zip, then the CD, etc.

[21:28:45] milehighfool: @rachelcw Thanks, Rachel. #editorchat

[21:28:59] kgh23: Hello. Dental editor here. Hoping to pick some of your brains, learn, and share some knowledge. #editorchat

[21:29:07] GLHancock: @milehighfool I tried the Amazon thingie at first. No one contributed, though they do buy eBooks. #editorchat

[21:29:23] JDEbberly: @rachelcw Thanks for stopping by! See you again next week. Have a wonderful week! ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[21:29:23] LydiaBreakfast: @ErikSherman agreed – online ads are not the revenue generators that they were originally thought to be #editorchat

[21:29:39] BeckyDMBR: @rachelcw G’night! #editorchat

[21:29:40] wordful: Seemingly viable revenue models in web publishing: subscriptions, premium content, ebooks, affiliate marketing, freelancing. #editorchat

[21:29:49] wordful: Ads are less effective #editorchat

[21:29:54] milehighfool: @Dark_Faust That’s good to hear. it shows you have engaged readers. #editorchat

[21:29:58] shortformernie: @milehighfool It feels like there should be another layer between my readers and how they pay me. #editorchat

[21:30:15] KatPowers: is anyone out there slowly ratcheting up rates for online ads? #editorchat

[21:30:30] milehighfool: @kgh23 Welcome. Glad you could make it. #editorchat

[21:30:40] LydiaBreakfast: @kgh23 hello, you’ll find a wealth of info at our blog editorchat.wordpress.com which has all transcripts from previous chats #editorchat

[21:30:41] BetterWriters: @wordful you think freelancing is still viable for a full time income? #editorchat

[21:30:42] Dark_Faust: @jennipps I understand. We all make the best deals we can at the time. I’ve heard of worst ones. ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[21:30:47] JDEbberly: RT @milehighfool: @Dark_Faust That’s good to hear. it shows you have engaged readers. #editorchat

[21:30:57] bacigalupe: @milehighfool @lydiabreakfast #editorchat same here, wow a lot of ideas as always, have to go thanks !

[21:30:57] wordful: RT @shortformernie It feels like there should be another layer between my readers and how they pay me. #editorchat

[21:30:58] milehighfool: @shortformernie Why? if there isn’t an extra later, you know precisly what your readers value about you. #editorchat

[21:31:11] jeffhora: @AuldHouse ?? What about community created content ?? #editorchat

[21:31:14] GLHancock: @KatPowers I would, if I could lure someone to advert again. Once had a single ad that paid for ALL my online expenses… #editorchat

[21:31:29] ErikSherman: @LydiaBreakfast That’s because unlimited supply of ads and too many people wanting to sell. #editorchat

[21:31:29] milehighfool: @bacigalupe Thank you. Glad you could stop by. #editorchat

[21:31:30] wordful: @BetterWriters yes, if you have an established brand and high traffic/visibility. Same with consulting. But the brand must exist #editorchat

[21:31:32] SpecialDee: #editorchat the NIE program is sponsored by businesses aka advertisers

[21:31:34] LydiaBreakfast: @BetterWriters many of us (including @milehighfool and yours truly) are supporting ourselves freelancing #editorchat

[21:31:41] jennipps: @Dark_Faust I got out of that one as soon as they dropped my blog from the pay per post program. I can use the info/posts myself #editorchat

[21:31:52] SpecialDee: #editorchat NIE = News in Education

[21:32:12] jeremymeyers: @mariaschneider godin has the advantage of being godin and therefore able to give stuff away like that. The Radiohead model. #editorchat

[21:32:12] shortformernie: @milehighfool Weird ethical reasons. What if someone throws a $20 in there with the idea I might play up their product? #editorchat

[21:32:14] ErikSherman: @BetterWriters I support my entire family as a freelance writer, so know it’s possible. #editorchat

[21:32:26] hotspringer: RT @wordful Seemingly viable revenue models in web publishing: sub’s, premium content, ebooks, affiliate marketing, freelancing #editorchat

[21:32:27] milehighfool: @ErikSherman Which, again, argues vigorously for direct engagement and subscriptions. #editorchat

[21:32:38] JDEbberly: RT @ErikSherman: @BetterWriters I support my entire family as a freelance writer, so know it’s possible. #editorchat

[21:32:44] JDEbberly: RT @milehighfool: @ErikSherman Which, again, argues vigorously for direct engagement and subscriptions. #editorchat

[21:32:47] jennipps: @BetterWriters Going by the plan I have in place (& have been following a while) I expect to be able to go FT this time next yr. #editorchat

[21:32:54] marciamarcia: @shortformernie Trouble w/ making sites more sticky is that many people seek something then want to apply it or get on w/ life. #editorchat

[21:32:58] milehighfool: Related Q3: Name one thing you’re doing to drive revenue you weren’t doing six monrhs ago. Something that pays. #editorchat

[21:33:01] anndouglas: @BetterWriters I’m a full-time writer (self-employed). I make a good living (although income down this yr). #editorchat

[21:33:04] LydiaBreakfast: Anyone else want to weigh in on Q3 Editors: are you being asked to explore new and different pay models? #editorchat

[21:33:09] miamicheap: Teresa Mears, newspaper editor turned web publisher/consultant #editorchat

[21:33:22] littlebrownpen: I freelance full-time, but with many long-time clients. It’s tough to connect with new editors, even with experience. #editorchat

[21:33:36] miamicheap: Community created content requires MORE editors @jeffhora @AuldHouse What about community created content ?? #editorchat

[21:33:37] JDEbberly: @Dark_Faust Have a great night and an even better week! See you next Wednesday night! ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[21:33:51] Dark_Faust: @ErikSherman Online ads are thinning out. Subscrip doesn’t work for us – engineer are cheap. Sponsorships working well. #editorchat

[21:33:57] shortformernie: @marciamarcia I know. But my site, they come from CNN or from Reddit and leave. I want them to stay for a minute or three. #editorchat

[21:34:06] LydiaBreakfast: @miamicheap Hey Teresa, thanks for joining #editorchat

[21:34:24] BeckyDMBR: @bacigalupe G’night! #editorchat

[21:34:32] connectingwomen: when does editorchat end? #editorchat

[21:34:33] BetterWriters: @ErikSherman Maybe we could talk sometime. I could use some advice. #editorchat

[21:34:37] milehighfool: @shortformernie If you’ve made the rules clear, why should it matter? Antiseptic disclosure is a great elixir. #editorchat

[21:34:39] kgh23: Community created content is something we’re just starting to explore and I have a feeling it will change a lot of our ways #editorchat

[21:34:57] mariaschneider: @JeremyMeyers True, but it’s important to note that revenue isn’t coming from the blog itself but what springs from the blog. #editorchat

[21:35:05] anndouglas: I do worry about making a living from e-books via traditional publishers, however. #editorchat

[21:35:05] milehighfool: @CathyWebSavvyPR Interesting. And is it bringing in real revenue or just a trickle? #editorchat

[21:35:07] LydiaBreakfast: @connectingwomen 10pm EST #editorchat

[21:35:09] shortformernie: @milehighfool Touchรƒยฉ. Maybe I’ll reconsider. #editorchat

[21:35:11] bacigalupe: RT @SpecialDee #editorchat It’s not a definite Kindle will be the next big tool; look what happened to floppy, then zip, then CD, etc.

[21:35:16] Dark_Faust: @milehighfool #editorchat Sponsorships, surveys and more SM (tho hard to measure the later).

[21:35:40] anndouglas: Something there has to shift. In the meantime, I’m diversifying + rewriting my business plan. #editorchat

[21:35:42] ErikSherman: @Dark_Faust True – and you have a specialized audience that some want to reach. #editorchat

[21:35:50] lauriemeisel: @Dark_Faust Sponsorships give us more bang as well. #editorchat

[21:35:59] milehighfool: @BetterWriters Feel free to contact either Lydia or I as well. This forum is open and we’re happy to help. #editorchat

[21:36:17] shortformernie: @milehighfool I acutally get people wanting to help me with the site (though I’m very picky). Maybe the tip jar’s the way to go. #editorchat

[21:36:20] connectingwomen: @LydiaBreakfast Oh ok, thanks. #editorchat

[21:36:31] ErikSherman: I have to head off. Thanks for the chat. #editorchat

[21:36:44] BetterWriters: @anndouglas Diversifying in what way? #editorchat

[21:36:50] milehighfool: @mariaschneider As in assignments, speaking engagements, etc.? #editorchat

[21:36:59] JenniferPerillo: @milehighfool Q3: Using my SM experience to do SM consulting. Doing it right now for Cuisinart. I target food-related SM work. #editorchat

[21:37:00] jennipps: @ErikSherman Good to see you, Erik. #editorchat

[21:37:05] JDEbberly: @ErikSherman Thanks for coming over, Erik! See you next Editorchat! ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[21:37:06] KatPowers: The last time we had to invent the business– when the printing press was invented, who got paid not to print, but to write? #editorchat

[21:37:10] LydiaBreakfast: @ErikSherman Thanks for coming Erik #editorchat

[21:37:17] DavisFreeberg: Community content is great 4 established sites, but doesn’t it hurt journalists in long run? #editorchat

[21:37:17] milehighfool: @shortformernie I’m using it at the end of each post. No tips yet ๐Ÿ˜ฆ #editorchat

[21:37:34] anndouglas: REVENUE 4 WRITERS: RT @ErikSherman Online ads thinning out. Subscriptions doesn’t work for us…. Sponsorships working well. #editorchat

[21:37:43] wordful: @ErikSherman Thanks Erik, a pleasure chatting with you. #editorchat

[21:37:55] milehighfool: @JenniferPerillo Terrific idea. Extending your brand in food wriitng, as it were. #editorchat

[21:38:03] JenniferPerillo: @littlebrownpen Face to face time really makes a difference. Met a new editor at conference in CHI and got a job a month later. #editorchat

[21:38:27] connectingwomen: How should one approach sponsors? #editorchat

[21:38:32] jennipps: @milehighfool How long have you had it in place? I’ve heard it takes at least a couple months before people really take notice. #editorchat

[21:38:34] jeremymeyers: @mariaschneider i’m sayin he can get traction giving away his books because he’s a known entity. i could do that and get nothin. #editorchat

[21:38:34] marciamarcia: @shortformernie So maybe sticky isn’t the goal, rather showing value fast. #editorchat

[21:38:38] wordful: @JenniferPerillo That’s awesome! How to U quantify the value of SM to them? That seems to be the real challenge w/SM consulting #editorchat

[21:38:49] shortformernie: @milehighfool Maybe it’s all about placement. #editorchat

[21:38:52] GLHancock: What kind of sponsorship would work for a freelance editor, do you think? #editorchat

[21:39:02] miamicheap: @DavisFreeberg how much good community content is there likely to be? #editorchat

[21:39:05] AuldHouse: Q3. Also exploring partnering–like I have relationship with magazine to take their content to book channel. #editorchat

[21:39:06] milehighfool: @ivey Hi Michael. Welcome to editorchat. You’re the CEO of TwitPay, are media outlets using your software? #editorchat

[21:39:09] merylkevans: @JenniferPerillo I think I do better without face time — online puts everyone on equal footing. No prejudices. #editorchat

[21:39:14] littlebrownpen: @JenniferPerillo You are right. I know this, yet, here I am on the couch. #editorchat

[21:39:25] Dark_Faust: @connectingwomen #editorchat never ends. It’s a zen sort of thing. ” riverrun, past Eve and Adam’s, from…”

[21:39:27] BeckyDMBR: @ErikSherman G’night! #editorchat

[21:39:31] milehighfool: @jennipps Only a week. Very new tool at the site. #editorchat

[21:39:47] milehighfool: @ErikSherman Thanks, Erik. See you again. #editorchat

[21:40:11] JOHNABYRNE: Why can’t other media brands emulate the success of the hybrid pay models of the WSJ, Barrons’ or ESPN? #editorchat

[21:40:15] JenniferPerillo: @anndouglas Diversity is key. Goes hand in hand with adaptability. #editorchat

[21:40:25] jennipps: @milehighfool I didn’t think I’d seen it before. (I’m bad. I check in about once a week.) #editorchat

[21:40:38] marciamarcia: I help people extend their brand & capacity to learning (teach too) thru SoMe so they can drive revenue to primary biz. RQ3 #editorchat

[21:40:51] jennipps: RT @JenniferPerillo @anndouglas Diversity is key. Goes hand in hand with adaptability. #editorchat

[21:40:55] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Why can’t other media brands emulate the success of the hybrid pay models of the WSJ, Barrons’ or ESPN? #editorchat

[21:41:00] Dark_Faust: @AuldHouse I’ve been doing that in some of my pubs – typically from Elsevier. Benefits both book and print/online pubs. #editorchat

[21:41:11] wordful: @jennipps @milehighfool Which tool are you discussing? #editorchat

[21:41:11] LydiaBreakfast: Right-o rt @JOHNABYRNE Why can’t other media brands emulate the success of the hybrid pay models of the WSJ, Barrons’ or ESPN? #editorchat

[21:41:21] connectingwomen: RT @JenniferPerillo @anndouglas Diversity is key. Goes hand in hand with adaptability. #editorchat

[21:41:30] jennipps: @wordful TipJoy #editorchat

[21:41:34] mariaschneider: @milehighfool Yes, book deals, assignments, consulting, e-book sales, there’s much to explore but it takes diligence. #editorchat

[21:41:52] milehighfool: @wordful TipJoy. tipjoy.com I believe. #editorchat

[21:41:59] milehighfool: @JOHNABYRNE Welcome John and agreed. Isn’t part of the problem for most pubs that they haven;t asked readers to engage? #editorchat

[21:42:04] anndouglas: @BetterWriters More workshops/training, consulting in certain fields of communications, products, speaking etc #editorchat

[21:42:04] wordful: @jennipps Thanks, I’ll look it up #editorchat

[21:42:06] Dark_Faust: @JDEbberly Sucess? Most of them are just running their print content online (or vice versa). That’s not a good model. #editorchat

[21:42:10] shortformernie: http://twitpic.com/639u1 – Regarding “sticky,” I’m redesigning my single pages to center around this. #editorchat

[21:42:18] merylkevans: @JOHNABYRNE But how many have the brand power to do the same as them? #editorchat

[21:42:19] ivey: @milehighfool Not yet. We can support micropayment models, but have been focused on person to person payments and content sales. #editorchat

[21:42:37] SpecialDee: #editorchat Think about how we use technology and how it adapts to our needs: video tapes to dvds to tivo to internet-based tv, etc

[21:42:39] DavisFreeberg: @miamicheap 50% of what I read is from non-journalists. Regardless of quality how do u build a bus model when community is free? #editorchat

[21:42:52] marciamarcia: @JOHNABYRNE I come back to culture & expectations. Those are brands about money itself. Could argue even ESPN. #editorchat

[21:43:15] GLHancock: Most readers don’t want to engage unless they know for whom they will be preening. #editorchat

[21:43:22] milehighfool: @ivey The PayPal model, in other words. Have you been approached by media to implement? #editorchat

[21:43:29] shortformernie: To explain, I’m trying to add simple navigation that convinces you to look beyond the post and focuses the content. #editorchat

[21:44:08] mathewi: @JohnAByrne: That’s a bit like asking why all actresses can’t be Kate Winslet, or why all golfers can’t be Tiger Woods #editorchat

[21:44:08] shortformernie: And it also leaves a natural spot for advertising. Every fourth click, show an ad. #editorchat

[21:44:11] milehighfool: @DavisFreeberg Community isn’t always free. You’ve been at the Fool — you know that some services come with a premium. #editorchat

[21:44:19] miamicheap: @DavisFreeberg is there good comm writing on many subjects or just a few? free does make biz model a puzzle. #editorchat

[21:44:28] LydiaBreakfast: @DavisFreeberg if community provides value, + someone is aggregating the content, then pay for certain content is not important #editorchat

[21:44:32] KatPowers: This is why you build a community RT @GLHancock readers don’t want to engage unless they know for whom they will be preening #editorchat

[21:44:52] wordful: @shortformernie Maybe you could set up a premium stream and limit your free stuff. #editorchat

[21:44:55] milehighfool: @shortformernie Smart. Get the reader to click deeper into the site. #editorchat

[21:44:59] connectingwomen: @KatPowers How do you build a community? #editorchat

[21:44:59] GLHancock: @shortformernie You mean internal links? Good, good. #editorchat

[21:45:22] milehighfool: I love how we’re going — let’s finish strong. 10 minutes till reintros and a link. #editorchat

[21:45:40] BetterWriters: @miamicheap what is “comm”? Communication? Commerce? Commission? #editorchat

[21:45:41] JenniferPerillo: @Wordful It can be a tough sell, so I start out with a trial period (paid of course) to ease commitment issues. #editorchat

[21:45:44] ivey: @milehighfool We haven’t been approached by media in the sense you mean, with tipping/micropayments for online media. #editorchat

[21:45:45] JDEbberly: RT @milehighfool: I love how we’re going — let’s finish strong. 10 minutes till reintros and a link. #editorchat

[21:45:59] JOHNABYRNE: Not many have the brand power of the WSJ. But I bet 90% of their content can be gotten for free–Reuters, Bloomberg, et al. #editorchat

[21:46:03] miamicheap: Remember CompuServe? But it wasn’t free. @connectingwomen @KatPowers How do you build a community? #editorchat

[21:46:13] GLHancock: And always list related posts with links to them. Do as I say, not as I fail to do. #editorchat

[21:46:15] shortformernie: Hundreds of thousands of people pay $10 for the right to post on the Something Awful Forums. #editorchat

[21:46:45] merylkevans: Why would anyone want to pay (for those not as big as WSJ) when they can get content elsewhere? Too many choices. #editorchat

[21:46:50] KatPowers: @connectingwomen Building a community takes time; constantly soliciting readers; sometimes making them write for PIE #editorchat

[21:46:51] shortformernie: Thounsands pay $5 a month to post on TotalFark despite the fact that Digg offers the same thing for essentially free. #editorchat

[21:46:59] milehighfool: @mathewi Disagree. Yes, the hybrid model isn’t well tested but what’s to stop publishers from testing? #editorchat

[21:47:00] merylkevans: @miamicheap I do — and I never subscribed to it. The other BBSes were enough for me. #editorchat

[21:47:07] connectingwomen: @miamicheap Unfortunately, I don’t remember CompuServe. #editorchat

[21:47:11] shortformernie: People will pay for community if the community presents value. #editorchat

[21:47:12] miamicheap: community, as in community-provided news @BetterWriters what is “comm”? Communication? Commerce? Commission? #editorchat

[21:47:25] connectingwomen: @KatPowers What do you mean PIE? #editorchat

[21:47:25] JOHNABYRNE: @mathewi Kate Winslet as WSJ; Tiger as ESPN! If you have something that isn’t entirely a commodity, you can get some rev for it. #editorchat

[21:47:26] wordful: @JenniferPerillo sure, I agree. I’m also assuming @shortformernie has some respectable/loyal traffic #editorchat

[21:47:45] DavisFreeberg: @milehighfool Fool is great example, they charge, but use free posts 4 trafic. Goes back 2 ? of isn’t this bad for journalists? #editorchat

[21:47:55] connectingwomen: RT @shortformernie People will pay for community if the community presents value. #editorchat #editorchat

[21:47:56] JDEbberly: RT @shortformernie: People will pay for community if the community presents value. (Agreed!) #editorchat

[21:48:05] GLHancock: A community of strangers has no value. #editorchat

[21:48:08] jennipps: @connectingwomen PIE = Pay in Exposure. #editorchat

[21:48:37] SpecialDee: #editorchat Does anyone remember when newspapers switched from linotype to computers? Miami Herald peeps weren’t happy http://bit.ly/XMNpx

[21:48:38] connectingwomen: @GLHancock That is why building relationships strengthen community. #editorchat

[21:48:38] littlebrownpen: @shortformernie I pay to be a part of certain communities because I value the collective contributions. #editorchat

[21:48:40] JOHNABYRNE: Current thinking in media is that 10% of your uniques will pay for a fee. You’ll lose traffic for a hybrid model but not much. #editorchat

[21:48:49] JDEbberly: @connectingwomen Paid In Exposure, I believe #editorchat

[21:48:50] miamicheap: CompuServe great at creating community in forums, which were for-profit but people contributed for free. all used real names #editorchat

[21:48:57] KatPowers: @connectingwomen goodness, tweetchat is slow tonight! #editorchat

[21:48:58] connectingwomen: @jennipps Oh ok! Good to know what it stood for. #editorchat

[21:48:58] milehighfool: @DavisFreeberg I don’t see how. Perhaps I’m naive but I don’t believe cultures of experimentation are pervasive in publishing. #editorchat

[21:49:06] shortformernie: @wordful I do, but it’s still budding. And due to fitting SFB around a job, I’m having a hard enough time creating free content. #editorchat

[21:49:17] connectingwomen: @JDEbberly Thanks! #editorchat

[21:49:17] wordful: @shortformernie Yes, you could set up a paid community forum #editorchat

[21:49:22] Dark_Faust: #editorchat. Twitter is too slow to be useful right now. I’m going back to writing. Hope everyone has a good evening. Nite

[21:49:28] connectingwomen: @KatPowers I know it is slow! #editorchat

[21:49:37] miamicheap: Exactly @littlebrownpen @shortformernie I pay to be a part of certain communities because I value the collective contributions. #editorchat

[21:49:43] milehighfool: @JOHNABYRNE But the revenue gain more than compensates, yes? This is part of the struggle the NYT is facing. #editorchat

[21:49:51] wordful: @shortformernie yes, this game takes hustle!!! @garyvee #editorchat

[21:49:52] GLHancock: Isn’t that what The Well is, paid communities? #editorchat

[21:49:56] JOHNABYRNE: The NYT can and will have to go to a hybrid model or it will have to become an endowed non-profit. #editorchat

[21:50:18] lauriemeisel: Building community is an art. RT @connectingwomen @shortformernie People will pay for community if the community presents value. #editorchat

[21:50:29] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: The NYT can and will have to go to a hybrid model or it will have to become an endowed non-profit. #editorchat

[21:50:47] KatPowers: whoa! RT @JOHNABYRNE The NYT can and will have to go to a hybrid model or it will have to become an endowed non-profit. #editorchat

[21:50:59] connectingwomen: Love it! RT @lauriemeisel Building community is an art. #editorchat

[21:51:09] BeckyDMBR: @Dark_Faust G’night! #editorchat

[21:51:23] JOHNABYRNE: Pretty much everyone can afford to give up a good chunk of traffic because there’s unsold inventory out there. #editorchat

[21:51:24] Billyjensen: The NYT can and will have to go to a hybrid model or it will have to become an endowed non-profit. #editorchat (via @JohnAByrne)

[21:51:30] marciamarcia: Back to Gates’ line: Services could=platform, tools, venue, the ppl you want to meet thru community, hitouch service… #editorchat

[21:51:38] KatPowers: damn straight! RT @lauriemeisel Building community is an art. #editorchat

[21:51:48] LydiaBreakfast: How do we feel about endowed non-profits? Related to the sponsorships idea of revenue generation? #editorchat

[21:52:00] milehighfool: @mathewi No question. Equally, I’m not suggesting publishers throw the hybrid Hail Mary — but a buttonhook pass would be nice. #editorchat

[21:52:02] merylkevans: @JenniferPerillo That’s where having a niche can make a difference — you get to know everyone. #editorchat

[21:52:06] JDEbberly: RT @KatPowers: damn straight! RT @lauriemeisel Building community is an art. #editorchat

[21:52:07] EBatson: RT @mariaschneider: A few bloggers who get the free content model: copyblogger, Seth Godin, Chris Brogan. Watch them for ideas. #editorchat

[21:52:08] miamicheap: @SpecialDee I think the Miami Herald is still using those original computers #editorchat

[21:52:13] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Pretty much everyone can afford to give up a good chunk of traffic because there’s unsold inventory out there. #editorchat

[21:52:19] EBatson: RT @mariaschneider: The free content model only works if you have a viable product or service to sell alongside. #editorchat. #editorchat

[21:52:27] DavisFreeberg: r/t @shortformernie 1000’s pay $5 a month to post TotalFark despite fact that Digg offers the same thing for essentially free. #editorchat

[21:52:45] JOHNABYRNE: @mathewi Agree. Free is here to stay. But hybrid and time-release models can bring in significant high-margin revenue for some. #editorchat

[21:53:07] AuldHouse: @LydiaBreakfast I think it will be easier to have endowed nonprofs then a single writer trying to raise money on their own. #editorchat

[21:53:33] mathewi: @JohnAByrne: 10% of your uniques might pay a fee, but for what? a pay wall isn’t a panacea – know what you’re charging 4 and why #editorchat

[21:53:37] BeckyDMBR: @miamicheap LOL! #editorchat

[21:53:45] Dark_Faust: @EBatson Free or paid for somewhere else, as in print. #editorchat

[21:54:38] SpecialDee: #editorchat Look how inexpensive it is for a business 2 sponsor papers for NIE: $28.50 for 150 papers. http://is.gd/HKhS

[21:54:53] AuldHouse: RT @JOHNABYRNE…Free is here to stay. But hybrid and time-release models can bring in significant high-margin revenue for some. #editorchat

[21:54:56] BeckyDMBR: @AuldHouse Good point about raising money. There’s a reason for editorial / advertising split. #editorchat

[21:55:16] SpecialDee: Too funny! RT @miamicheap: @SpecialDee I think the Miami Herald is still using those original computers #editorchat

[21:55:19] monicagagnier: @SpecialDee Most papers switched from TTS Electrosets or linotypes (if they still had them) in the mid-70s #editorchat

[21:55:30] JOHNABYRNE: @milehighfool Yes. I bet over a third of the ad inventory at the NYT is unsold. So it can lose ad capacity for subscriber rev. #editorchat

[21:55:52] anndouglas: Tried a rev-share model with one client. So many factors beyond quality of writing come into play. #editorchat

[21:56:34] hotspringer: From @BentleyGTCSpeed 3-pt market plan: What is your value? Who can pay? How to reach them? Comm’y on front end; $ on back end. #editorchat

[21:56:37] DavisFreeberg: R/T @anndouglas: Tried a rev-share model with one client. So many factors beyond quality of writing come into play. #editorchat

[21:56:42] GLHancock: @anndouglas Yes! That’s why I just hooted the ghostwriting offer off the phone. #editorchat

[21:56:53] milehighfool: Five minutes to go, folks. Time to reintroduce yourself and post a link if you’d like. #editorchat

[21:57:10] K_M_Anderson: @SpecialDee #editorchat NIE has been wonderful as we’ve revived the journalism prog @ my hs! 25 daily copies –> students see how it’s done!

[21:57:23] anndouglas: If pages aren’t optimized, search isn’t working properly, or there are other tech glitches, writer loses $. #editorchat

[21:57:39] JDEbberly: RT @milehighfool: Five minutes to go, folks. Time to reintroduce yourself and post a link if you’d like. #editorchat

[21:57:59] connectingwomen: Intro: Faten of Connecting Women Radio, accept press releases and pitches for blogs http://www.blogtalkradio.com/connectingwomen #editorchat

[21:58:05] wordful: Charles Bohannan of http://wordful.com. Blogger, writer, editor, family man. I live and surf in Hawaii. Aloha #editorchat

[21:58:08] JOHNABYRNE: @mathewi Best hybirds are the WSJ and ESPN. Best time-release model is Barrons’. Original, specialized content is key. #editorchat

[21:58:22] anndouglas: @GLHancock Very true for both online and offline projects. Writers have to be aware of risk factors. #editorchat

[21:58:42] shortformernie: Ernie Smith, editor @ ShortFormBlog.com and designer at The Washington Post’s Express. I can also beat you at arm wrestling. #editorchat

[21:58:56] KatPowers: I am a local, local, local princess at a site just outside Boston http://www.wickedlocal.com/somerville #editorchat

[21:59:08] jennipps: Jen Nipps, fl writer in Oklahoma specializing in writing, creativity, plus-size issues, & health. http://www.jenifernipps.com #editorchat

[21:59:13] GLHancock: Georganna blogs at A Writer’s Edge, http://www.writers-edge/Blog.html and diddles with websites at HancockWebsites.com #editorchat

[21:59:15] milehighfool: @JOHNABYRNE Those are all great but I’m sure you won’t mind if I throw The Motley Fool into that list ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[21:59:20] shortformernie: Actually, not really. I have no muscle in my arms. #editorchat

[21:59:23] K_M_Anderson: @SpecialDee #editorchat how else to instill newspaper reading habit in our studs? & joys of print on paper (still cool in an online world)

[21:59:29] mathewi: @JohnAByrne: yes, sorry — I meant examples other than the WSJ, ESPN or the Economist #editorchat

[21:59:34] lauriemeisel: RT @JOHNABYRNE Best hybirds are the WSJ and ESPN. Best time-release model is Barrons’. Original, specialized content is key. #editorchat

[21:59:35] hotspringer: Rebecca McCormick, freelance travel and feature writer. http://tinyurl.com/hotspringer #editorchat

[21:59:53] anndouglas: Ann Douglas http://anndouglas.typepad.com/blogs/ For writers: @bookpubs @litmags @writers2follow #editorchat

[21:59:58] milehighfool: @shortformernie Lookimg forward to hearing from you, Ernie. Thanks for joining us tonight. #editorchat

[22:00:08] BetterWriters: I’m a little overwhelmed, but my first time here. Fascinating conversation. Freelance biz writer http://beabetterwriternow.com #editorchat

[22:00:08] AuldHouse: Have a good night and check out my bio at… http://bit.ly/1wJlHu. #editorchat

[22:00:09] SpecialDee: Special Sections editor at Maine paper, in the Advertising dept #editorchat Thanks! http://specialdee.wordpress.com

[22:00:32] BeckyDMBR: Becky, freelance journalist in Iow-ay … online and in print. #editorchat

[22:00:38] JDEbberly: JD Ebberly, writer in N VA. You’ll Learn MUCH about writers & editors here at Editorchat https://editorchat.wordpress.com/ #editorchat

[22:00:57] milehighfool: @anndouglas Thanks, as always, for your generous contrbutions, Ann. #editorchat

[22:00:59] JOHNABYRNE: @mathewi More specialized examples in trade pubs, born-to-the-web enterprises like TheStreet.com & Motley Fool in my category. #editorchat

[22:01:04] littlebrownpen: Nichole Robertson, freelance writer, blogger: http://littlebrownpen.blogspot.com/ #editorchat

[22:01:07] JenniferPerillo: Great talk tnite Hope to see you all at http://www.InJenniesKitchen.com. BTW: 2 hrs left in my Bobby Flay cookbook giveaway. #editorchat

[22:01:18] shortformernie: @milehighfool Totally. Can’t wait to work with you on something. #editorchat

[22:01:50] kgh23: Kevin Henry of PennWell’s dental division. Community manager and editor. See you all online soon … http://bit.ly/LaKBJ #editorchat

[22:02:07] JDEbberly: THANK YOU very much @milehighfool @LydiaBreakfast @JOHNABYRNE and everyone here tonight for another informative chat! ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[22:02:12] jennipps: It’s been a great chat, everyone. Now I need to get to a couple devotions and a blog post planned for tonight. #editorchat

[22:02:14] hotspringer: Thanks to our gracious hosts, @lydiabreakfast and @milehighfool. #editorchat

[22:02:26] LydiaBreakfast: Tweeps, I thank you all for coming, stay as long as you like. I am your co-host Lydia Dishman, freelance features writer. #editorchat

[22:02:43] jennipps: Thanks to @milehighfool & @LydiaBreakfast for another great job of herding cats. ๐Ÿ™‚ #editorchat

[22:03:05] SpecialDee: @K_M_Anderson #editorchat We had our banquet tonite for students who write in our Academic Advocate; very successful program.

[22:03:11] marciamarcia: Thanks for another great education on #editorchat. http://marciaconner.com, writer w/ FastCo+. Welcome editing & consult opps on biz themes.

[22:03:32] wordful: This chat gets better and better every week! Thanks @milehighfool and @LydiaBreakfast #editorchat

[22:03:32] lauriemeisel: Laurie Meisel, web producer McGraw-Hill’s Architectural Record http://bit.ly/Acuy3 #editorchat

[22:03:34] GLHancock: Is someone here from the Miami Herald? #editorchat

[22:03:44] miamicheap: Yes, thanks to @lydiabreakfast and @milehighfool. It’s great to meet all of you. 16 years online, this is my first “chat.” #editorchat

[22:04:16] milehighfool: Great chat tonight. Thanks to all who stopped by. Tim Beyers, Motley Fool tech contributor, blogging at http://timbeyers.com #editorchat

[22:04:33] BeckyDMBR: @jennipps Meow! ๐Ÿ˜‰ #editorchat

[22:04:37] lauriemeisel: Thanks @milehighfool & @LydiaBreakfast for another enlightening chat. #editorchat

[22:04:43] K_M_Anderson: @SpecialDee #editorchat a program for hs students?

[22:04:59] BeckyDMBR: @milehighfool @LydiaBreakfast Thanks again for a great #editorchat!

[22:05:18] CEngeron: Interested in the #editorchat thread I just stumbled upon, but not quite sure what it is yet. Perhaps moderator @milehighfool has info?

[22:05:22] dbenk: @JohnAByrne 10 percent of uniques seems awfully high. In my experience it’s about 1-3% who’ll pay. #editorchat

[22:05:30] GLHancock: Oh, hai! @miamicheap Old bureau second banana here. Lets talk sometime! Email me? #editorchat

[22:06:05] BeckyDMBR: @GLHancock Not sure if she’s at the Herald, but @miamicheap is in Miami. #editorchat

[22:06:05] anndouglas: @littlebrownpen Ditto. Your comment reminded me I should be pitching articles to the editors of my fave communities. #editorchat

[22:06:29] LydiaBreakfast: @CEngeron check out editorchat.wordpress.com for all the info and transcripts of our chats #editorchat

[22:07:01] KatPowers: Thank you @milehighfool Congrants @LydiaBreakfast on your recent gig #editorchat

[22:07:10] JDEbberly: @CEngeron You can read more about Editorchat here: https://editorchat.wordpress.com/ #editorchat

[22:07:22] LydiaBreakfast: @KatPowers thanks! #editorchat

[22:07:55] GLHancock: Thank you, mods. Great job well done! #editorchat

[22:08:17] LydiaBreakfast: Remember if you missed anything you can always check out https://editorchat.wordpress.com and drop us a comment/continue to chat #editorchat

[22:09:47] JenniferPerillo: Yes, thanks to @LydiaBreakfast & @milehighfool! #editorchat

[22:09:51] LydiaBreakfast: See you all next week, same twitter time, same twitter channel 8:30-10pm EST #editorchat

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Written by LydiaBreakfast

June 3, 2009 at 11:56 am

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