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Transcript of #editorchat 5/27

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[20:31:32] milehighfool: And we’re live. Welcome to another edition of #editorchat. Please introduce yourselves as you join.

[20:31:43] shortformernie: Hey all. @milehighfool Got your message, will respond soon. #editorchat

[20:32:40] jennipps: Hi, all!! Jen, fl writer in south Oklahoma, specializing in creativity, writing, plus-size issues, and health at the moment. #editorchat

[20:32:47] shortformernie: Howdy hey! Ernie Smith, editor, ShortFormBlog — that’s http://shortformblog.com — and designer, Wash. Post Express. #editorchat

[20:33:12] milehighfool: @shortformernie Awesome. Thanks, Ernie. Glad you could make it tonight. #editorchat

[20:33:30] anndouglas: Please use http://www.twittersnooze.com if you want to filter my #editorchat tweets for the next couple of hours.

[20:33:31] milehighfool: @jennipps Welcome back, Jen. Glad you could make it. #editorchat

[20:33:37] hotspringer: Rebecca McCormick, freelance travel and feature writer from Hot Springs, Ark. #editorchat

[20:34:04] jennipps: @milehighfool And I’m not house- or dog-sitting tonight, so I should be able to be here for the whole thing. 🙂 #editorchat

[20:34:05] GLHancock: Georganna in San Diego, proud of the Padres, reading the Union-Tribune, writing, editing, and fooling around with websites #editorchat

[20:34:19] AuldHouse: #editorchat by night launching AuldHouse Publishing focusing on how-to content in ebook format

[20:34:19] jennipps: @hotspringer Hi, Rebecca! Good to see you. 🙂 #editorchat

[20:34:22] merylkevans: Texas gal who doesn’t have a tattoo and loves to play with words both for a living as writer / editor and for fun. #editorchat

[20:34:24] anndouglas: Hi all. I’m Ann Douglas – author, blogger, magazine columnist, copywriter, etc. #editorchat

[20:35:07] jennipps: @merylkevans That reminds me of a blog post I’ve had simmering for a couple days. Um…the playing with words part, not the tat. #editorchat

[20:35:09] milehighfool: @hotspringer @GLHancock Rebecca, Georganna — welcome. Glad you could makeit. #editorchat

[20:35:17] littlebrownpen: Hi everyone. Nichole Robertson. Freelance writer, blogger, Copy Director for a German organic skin care brand. #editorchat

[20:35:44] jennipps: @anndouglas Hi, Ann. Thanks for the RT earlier. #editorchat

[20:35:54] chriswebb: Hello all. I am an Associate Publisher, John WIley & Sons. #editorchat

[20:36:12] hinder: Howdy all. I’m Katie writer and editor for a handful of publications and websites. #editorchat

[20:36:12] jennipps: @littlebrownpen Did you get a new avatar picture? Looks good. #editorchat

[20:36:15] LydiaBreakfast: Good Evening all, a hearty welcome from your co-host Lydia Dishman, freelance features writer #editorchat

[20:36:29] milehighfool: @littlebrownpen @AuldHouse @merylkevans Hey there. Thanks for joining us tonight. #editorchat

[20:36:48] LydiaBreakfast: @chriswebb Hi Chris, nice to see you thanks for coming #editorchat

[20:36:50] milehighfool: @chriswebb Welcome. Great to have you here. #editorchat

[20:36:58] littlebrownpen: @jennipps I did. I had to get rid of the winter hat. #editorchat

[20:37:08] LydiaBreakfast: @hinder Hey Katie thanks for coming #editorchat

[20:37:29] fixin2: Good evening. I’m Paul, news editor for a small daily newspaper in Mississippi. #editorchat

[20:37:58] milehighfool: @hinder Hey Katie. Good post re: freelancing failure. Valuable lessions for us all, I think. #editorchat

[20:38:00] LydiaBreakfast: @hotspringer Hey Rebecca good to see you #editorchat

[20:38:02] newswise: Greetings everyone at #editorchat – if you need smart news, you should get @newswise http://tinyurl.com/cjl7vw

[20:38:12] LydiaBreakfast: @fixin2 Hi Paul thanks for joining us #editorchat

[20:38:15] ErikSherman: Evening I’m a freelancer, contributing editor at BNET, write for various magazines, and a book here and there #editorchat

[20:38:19] milehighfool: @fixin2 Hi Paul. Glad you could make it. #editorchat

[20:38:26] LydiaBreakfast: @littlebrownpen Nichole you look lovely, with or without your hat #editorchat

[20:38:37] LydiaBreakfast: @ErikSherman Good evening Erik, welcome #editorchat

[20:38:58] littlebrownpen: @LydiaBreakfast Thanks! I was teased quite a bit about it. But I have somewhere between two and three photos of myself. #editorchat

[20:38:59] milehighfool: @ErikSherman Good to see you again, Erik. See the news from Google I/O? I swear it’s the new Macworld. #editorchat

[20:39:04] LydiaBreakfast: @jennipps Jen, good to see you again 🙂 #editorchat

[20:39:24] chriswebb: So as this is my first #editorchat, is there a topic for discussion tonight?

[20:39:45] LydiaBreakfast: @merylkevans hey Meryl, are you attempting three chats tonight? #editorchat

[20:40:08] jennipps: @chriswebb Yep. Either @milehighfool or @LydiaBreakfast will get us started with the first question in a few minutes. #editorchat

[20:40:09] LydiaBreakfast: @chriswebb radical monetization and we’ll start the questions soon #editorchat

[20:40:25] fixin2: @milehighfool @LydiaBreakfast Thanks! Wasn’t sure I could make it; can hang for about 30-40 min. #editorchat

[20:40:33] milehighfool: @chriswebb There is. Radical monetization models in publishing. We’ll get to the Qs shortly. First, let me offer some rules. #editorchat

[20:40:37] SpecialDee: #editorchat Jumping in the convo, Special Sections Editor at Maine newspaper. Hello!

[20:40:51] merylkevans: @LydiaBreakfast Sure am! So far, so good… and trying to add one to my chat list at the moment. #editorchat

[20:40:55] LydiaBreakfast: @fixin2 excellent, tweeps are in and out all the time #editorchat

[20:41:05] milehighfool: Rule No. 1 Observers welcome but #editorchat is for those who are, or those who work with, editors.

[20:41:10] LydiaBreakfast: @SpecialDee Hiya Ms. Dee, thanks for stopping in #editorchat

[20:41:24] milehighfool: Rule No. 2 Stay on topic. #editorchat

[20:41:28] LydiaBreakfast: @merylkevans you are a wonder 🙂 #editorchat

[20:41:36] ErikSherman: @milehighfool Trade shows as news making spots seem to go through phases. #editorchat

[20:42:09] milehighfool: Rule No. 3. Courteous comments, please. (Thank you, sir. Ma’am.) #editorchat

[20:42:19] ErikSherman: @LydiaBreakfast With the way things are going, radical monetization will be anything that works. #editorchat

[20:42:24] milehighfool: Rule No. 4. Spammers will be electrocuted. (Your computer *is* wired, pal.) #editorchat

[20:42:57] milehighfool: Rule No. 5: Refer to the question number when commenting. Q1, Q2, etc. #editorchat

[20:43:03] GLHancock: @ErikSherman tee! hee! That’s what I thought, too! #editorchat

[20:43:11] LydiaBreakfast: @ErikSherman we’ll see what these fine tweeps come up with tonight. The new model may just be found in our chat. #editorchat

[20:43:27] studentoflife: RT @milehighfool Rule No. 4. Spammers will be electrocuted. (Your computer *is* wired, pal.)#editorchat

[20:44:10] milehighfool: @ErikSherman (Wince.) Too true, but we’ll give it a whirl anyhow. We’ve seen some interesting ideas lately. #editorchat

[20:44:27] bacigalupe: Redundant Rule: Keep the comments short #editorchat

[20:44:37] rachelcw: Take 2. Rachel Weingarten – author/marketer/freelance writer/prognosticator & commentator All around helpful person #editorchat

[20:45:15] JDEbberly: Apologies for arriving here late! Traffic is bad here in N VA 😦 #editorchat

[20:45:21] LydiaBreakfast: @bacigalupe excellent point, thanks for that 🙂 #editorchat

[20:45:51] ErikSherman: @milehighfool One just came into my email inbox – magazines considering iPhone apps. #editorchat

[20:45:52] JDEbberly: I apologize to my followers for excessive tweets as I enter Editorchat, which runs from 830pm to 10pm EST #editorchat

[20:45:59] LydiaBreakfast: @JDEbberly JD you just need to tweet on the side of the road 😉 #editorchat

[20:46:02] milehighfool: @bacigalupe More important yet not a rule: Keep comments relevant. #editorchat

[20:46:05] jennipps: @JDEbberly Good to see you! Glad you made it through the traffic. #editorchat

[20:46:41] milehighfool: @ErikSherman Not surprised, though I like the idea of Kindle DX subscriptions better. #editorchat

[20:46:56] milehighfool: @JDEbberly Glad you could make it, JD. #editorchat

[20:46:56] jennipps: @milehighfool Hm. It kind of is a rule. Goes along with the “Stay on topic” part. #editorchat

[20:47:13] rachelcw: oh yes, my apologies in advance if I seem to be tweeting on high speed, I’m about to enter #editorchat

[20:47:27] LydiaBreakfast: @rachelcw Rachel, welcome! #editorchat

[20:47:36] Dark_Faust: John Blyler, EiC for several technology trade pubs. This is the earliest that I’ve been here in a while. #editorchat

[20:47:41] bacigalupe: So the topic is the topic today? #editorchat

[20:47:42] ErikSherman: @milehighfool And just think – it could be worse. You could be in charge of Sirius XM. #editorchat

[20:47:52] BeckyDMBR: @milehighfool Oh, oh, hey, hey … Becky here from Iow-ay. 😉 #editorchat

[20:47:59] milehighfool: @rachelcw Welcome, Rachel. We can attest to how helpful you are. #editorchat

[20:48:05] LydiaBreakfast: So we are talking radical monetization tonight, in light of shrinking budgets in all media #editorchat

[20:48:19] rachelcw: waves hello to Lydia! thanks #editorchat

[20:48:27] LydiaBreakfast: @BeckyDMBR Wahoo! #editorchat

[20:48:30] shortformernie: @JDEbberly There’s a reason why I live in D.C. proper. 😀 #editorchat

[20:48:37] imagirlscout: @kgh23 just found this … You might be interested: Editorchat, which runs from 830pm to 10pm EST #editorchat

[20:48:43] JDEbberly: JD Ebberly here out of N VA – Writes articles on blogging and new media – Glad to be in Editorchat! 🙂 #editorchat

[20:48:48] bacigalupe: What’s radical monetization? (oops, I will be spammed) #editorchat

[20:48:50] GLHancock: A friend asked me if I thought it would be a good idea to give all school kids Kindles and make texts electronic. Cal is broke! #editorchat

[20:48:53] LydiaBreakfast: @shortformernie Hiya Ernie, thanks for dropping in #editorchat

[20:48:55] milehighfool: @ErikSherman Right. The good news: I can’t tan like Mel Karmazin. #editorchat

[20:49:33] marciamarcia: Freelance writer w/ FastCo+, educator, editor, learner, mom, SoMe enthusiast. Thrilled to have a short break to join in on #editorchat

[20:49:36] merylkevans: @JDEbberly Lived in DC for six years… don’t miss the traffic itty bit. #editorchat

[20:49:40] milehighfool: @BeckyDMBR Hey Becky! Glad you could make it. #editorchat

[20:49:43] Dark_Faust: Did anyone see the WSJ article about the shortage of investment analysts? Companies aren’t getting coverage which means lost $$. #editorchat

[20:50:01] Dark_Faust: Similar to the plight of editors in general. #editorchat

[20:50:05] AuldHouse: @bacigalupe I was about to ask the same thing–would like definition. #editorchat

[20:50:22] jennipps: @imagirlscout You’re both welcome to join in #editorchat. (BTW, hi from a fellow Okie.)

[20:50:23] bacigalupe: The #editorchat at the start is like taking off the jackets, picking up a drink, finding a sofa…

[20:50:27] LydiaBreakfast: @Dark_Faust do you have a link? #editorchat

[20:50:30] ErikSherman: @milehighfool That tan is proof of the existence of cyborgs. #editorchat

[20:50:58] milehighfool: What we mean by radical monetization = new or unproven models for monetizing content, be it reporting, books, etc. #editorchat

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Written by LydiaBreakfast

June 3, 2009 at 11:56 am

Transcript of #editorchat 3-25

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#editorchat was created to be an inclusive forum for writers and editors to get together and talk about how to work more effectively together.  In less than two months it has been a great success and continues to grow.  We had a terrific session on Wednesday, thanks to the appearance of John Byrne.  His tweets generated a interesting talk among the participants, many of whom joined in for the first time.  If you missed it, you can read about it here, and hopefully, you’ll chime in next week. 

NOTE:  The following transcript has been modified to remove comments from two spoilers users that did not add anything to the discussion except harassing commentary.  We are trying to run a productive and helpful forum.  Constructive criticism delivered in a respectful manner is welcomed.  But if anyone has a personal beef with a member of the media or a specific publication, the appropriate way to have those comments be heard is to contact the individual or organization directly.

[20:00:15] JOHNABYRNE: Welcome everyone. And thanks to LydiaBreakfast for inviting me to moderate #editorchat tonight. So what’s the best way to start?

[20:00:22] LydiaBreakfast: And we are live tweeps, welcome to another edition of editorchat #editorchat

[20:00:45] milehighfool: And we’re live. Please introduce yourselves and welcome @JOHNABYRNE. #editorch

[20:01:09] Willowbottom: Tonight on #editorchat, @JOHNABYRNE – do join! But if you won’t be, you may want to filter me out for the next little bit.

[20:01:23] jimmcbee: RT @milehighfool: Tweeps: Filter #editorchat for the next 1.5 hrs if you don’t want to hear my tweets about community content. #editorchat

[20:01:57] JOHNABYRNE: Thank you Lydia. #editorchat

[20:02:22] jennipps: Hi, all! Jen Nipps here, in south Oklahoma, fl writer specializing in writing/creativity, freelancing, & plus-size issues. #editorchat

[20:02:28] shirleybrady: Hi all – Shirley Brady here, work with John (BW.com community editor) – looking forward to this! #editorchat

[20:02:32] LydiaBreakfast: Everyone, please tell us who you are and what you do before we start the questions #editorchat

[20:02:32] JDEbberly: Welcome to Editorchat, John A Byrne. We’re honored and humbled by your presence. #editorchat

[20:02:50] milehighfool: @PDXsays All the details are ateditorchat.wordpress.com #editorchat

[20:02:55] BeckyDMBR: @milehighfool I’m here. Freelance journalist in Iow-ay! #editorchat

[20:03:13] jennipps: @PDXsays Easiest way, IMO, is go to http://www.tweetchat.com and log in with your Twitter ID & password. Type “editorchat” in the box. #editorchat

[20:03:31] JOHNABYRNE: @JDEbberly Thanks! #editorchat

[20:03:39] jennipps: @JOHNABYRNE Thank you for coming & guest-moderating. #editorchat

[20:04:00] littlebrownpen: Welcome John! Hi everyone. Nichole Robertson, freelance writer and Copy Director for a German organic skin care brand. #editorchat

[20:04:12] tweditor: Hi! I’m back for a second week. I’m Charmaine Cooper Hussain, an freelance editor specializing in high-tech communications. #editorchat

[20:04:13] Willowbottom: Timberly Marek, proj. mgr by day, freelancer by night: corp. research, competitive analysis, social media &occasional creative #editorchat

[20:04:41] anndouglas: I’m Ann Douglas. Parenting blogger @torontostar + @yahoo canada + write pregnancy column @conceive etc. #editorchat

[20:04:45] marciamarcia: While I usually warn I’ll be doing #editorchat & therefore updating more than usual, instead 2nite I hope I can come up w/ even 1 wise quip.

[20:04:47] tweditor: Oh my goodness, “a” freelance editor, not “an.” What a way to make a first impression. #editorchat

[20:05:11] jimmcbee: Jim McBee, co-owner http://smartnewsnc.com freelance 2 publisher startup; ex-journo, current health policy writer. Hi! #editorchat

[20:05:29] Willowbottom: @tweditor wouldn’t editorial catch that, though? 😉 #editorchat

[20:06:07] TMFZahrim: Anders Bylund, Motley Fool — evening one and all #editorchat

[20:06:12] bakercom1: sorry everybody, cross-tweeted there. Participating in #editorchat too for a bit. excuse the frequent tweets/ #editorchat

[20:06:26] JDEbberly: J. D. Ebberly, I’m a blogger out of N VA who writes pieces on blogging and New Media #editorchat

[20:06:43] a2editor: Hello, editorchat. Made it on time this week. 🙂 #editorchat

[20:06:48] JOHNABYRNE: I’m happy to take questions but let me start the ball rolling with one from Editorchat’s blog. #editorchat

[20:06:49] tweditor: @Willowbottom, erm, I *am* editorial … 🙂 #editorchat

[20:07:21] WriteNowBiz: May I ask a stupid question? lol #editorchat

[20:07:28] rebeccalweber: This is usually too late for me (American writer living in South Africa) but I am dipping in for a few minutes #editorchat #editorchat

[20:07:47] JOHNABYRNE: “You often tweet about user-generated story ideas. How important are blogs and user comments in generating topics?” #editorchat

[20:08:13] WriteNowBiz: These messages are just to a group here not to all of our followers right? (some cross over) #editorchat

[20:08:16] miltoncontact: small publisher, editor and occasional business article writer – new & curious to event
#editorchat

[20:08:17] TMFZahrim: @milehighfool Sorry Tim, met my jerk quota for the night already 😉 #editorchat

[20:08:24] JOHNABYRNE: For us, this is all part of how journalism is changing from a product handed down by reporters to an audience. #editorchat

[20:08:46] Willowbottom: @WriteNowBiz if your followers haven’t filtered out #editorchat, they will see whatever you post except maybe not @ replies.

[20:09:00] JOHNABYRNE: To a process that embraces the user at every stage, from idea generation when you ask your readers for their best story ideas. #editorchat

[20:09:17] tweditor: @WriteNowBiz All of your followers will see tweets in this chat. Ask them to turn on http://www.twittersnooze.com if it bothers them. #editorchat

[20:09:20] JOHNABYRNE: To the middle where you tell your readership what you’re working on and ask them for suggestions on sourcing and other issues. #editorchat

[20:09:20] merylkevans: @JOHNABYRNE User-generated story ideas give you good insight into what interests the audience and build off of that. #editorchat

[20:09:28] jennipps: @WriteNowBiz Nope, they show up in your general tweet stream, too. #editorchat

[20:09:39] JOHNABYRNE: And at the end when the story becomes an intellectual fireplace around which the most meaningful conversations occur. #editorchat

[20:09:40] milehighfool: @WriteNowBiz How about we get the first question going? I’m sure we’ll have lots of time for other questions. #editorchat

[20:09:44] LydiaBreakfast: RT @JOHNABYRNE For us, this is all part of how journalism is changing from a product handed down by reporters to an audience. #editorchat

[20:10:09] JOHNABYRNE: Those discussions, involving readers and an editor or writer, are as valuable as the journalism that is produced. #editorchat

[20:10:23] milehighfool: @JOHNABYRNE Reminds me of the permanent campaign. There’s no such thing as a static story anymore. #editorchat

[20:10:46] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE For us, this is all part of how journalism is changing from a product handed down by reporters to an audienc #editorchat

[20:10:48] littlebrownpen: User-generated content also drives traffic from the user’s blogs and websites. #editorchat

[20:11:10] JOHNABYRNE: 1) Search–which is transactional and undermines the relationships that media brands have with their audiences. #editorchat

[20:11:27] milehighfool: RT @JOHNABYRNE Those discussions, involving readers and an editor or writer, are as valuable as the journalism that is produced. #editorchat

[20:11:34] jennipps: RT @JOHNABYRNE Those discussions, involving readers and an editor or writer, are as valuable as the journalism that is produ #editorchat

[20:11:42] PDXsays: RT:@JOHNABYRNE At the end the story becomes an intellectual fireplace around which the most meaningful conversations occur. #editorchat

[20:11:46] littlebrownpen: RT @JOHNABYRNE Those discussions, involving readers and an editor or writer, are as valuable as the journalism that is produced. #editorchat

[20:11:50] JOHNABYRNE: 2) Behavioral targeting advertising–which undermines contextual advertising that has long supported journalism. #editorchat

[20:12:03] LifeofMichael: hello. Asst. ND at Sacramento TV station interested in #editorchat.

[20:12:32] JOHNABYRNE: Deeply engaging readers and converting them to partners is essential to induce loyalty and return visits. #editorchat

[20:12:54] bakercom1: uh,oh twitter search is acting screwy. #editorchat

[20:13:04] JOHNABYRNE: You’re right. There is no such thing as a static story anymore. Every story is alive and extended by virtue of this partnership. #editorchat

[20:13:29] jimmcbee: When http://blufftontoday.com reverse published online chatter in print, readers loved it, incl. those who didnt go online. #editorchat

[20:13:33] knitnrun: Melissa S. Technology consultant and technical writer. Working on grad school thesis. #editorchat First time here.

[20:13:44] littlebrownpen: And readers add valuable insight/debate and further the conversation. I’m as interested in comments as content. #editorchat

[20:13:50] rebeccalweber: @JOHNABYRNE Reading is never a passive act #editorchat #editorchat

[20:13:51] JOHNABYRNE: And encouraging reader ideas for stories does indeed give you smart insight into what your readers are keenly interested in. #editorchat

[20:13:53] PDXsays: RT: @JOHNABYRNE No such thing as a static story anymore. Every story is alive and extended by virtue of this partnership. #editorchat

[20:13:58] sheigh: @JOHNABYRNE I don’t know. What if they arrived through organic search. What’s the real likelihood of inducing loyalty? #editorchat

[20:14:25] nealhannon: @JOHNABYRNE #editorchat Makes sense to me. If done correctly. Judgment is key. Highly engaged parties can bias results

[20:14:27] jennipps: RT @JOHNABYRNE Deeply engaging readers and converting them to partners is essential to induce loyalty and return visits. #editorchat

[20:14:34] JOHNABYRNE: My favorite example is from one of our senior writers Steve Baker who has a blog called blogspotting on our site. #editorchat

[20:14:35] milehighfool: @JOHNABYRNE What’s interesting, I think, is how the writer and editor manage this conversation together. Where’s the line? #editorchat

[20:14:59] miltoncontact: non-static stories a strength for blogs that can react to sitution – twitter at extremem end of this
#editorchat

[20:15:16] JOHNABYRNE: Early last year when he did a story on Twitter, Steve tweeted the topic sentences and asked tweeps to fill in the rest. #editorchat

[20:15:23] merylkevans: @jennipps That’s what Dallas Morning News is trying to do with Neighborsgo.com. Involve readers and the community. #editorchat

[20:15:33] Willowbottom: @knitnrun Welcome, Melissa S. 🙂 #editorchat

[20:15:43] milehighfool: @JOHNABYRNE I can second this. We do it all the time at the Fool. There are more than 100,000 investors pitching stocks in CAPS. #editorchat

[20:15:44] JOHNABYRNE: It created terrific engagement among readers, seeded an audience for the story, and was truly innovative. #editorchat

[20:15:57] AlbertMaruggi: Baker class act ahead of the pack of New Breed journalist with old school cred. #editorchat

[20:16:27] jennipps: @JOHNABYRNE That’s an interesting way to do it. 🙂 I’ve used Twitter for sources, but so far that’s been the extent of it. #editorchat

[20:16:32] milehighfool: @JOHNABYRNE And every pitch is a potential story idea. BW does this extremely well, too.
#editorchat

[20:16:41] anndouglas: Story generation loop: Reporting on new study -> add my commentary -> ask for reader feedback -> generate new research/stories. #editorchat

[20:16:43] JOHNABYRNE: Editors and writers need to understand how to create and build communities and then how to serve them. That’s part of the job. #editorchat

[20:17:04] LydiaBreakfast: @JOHNABYRNE What is the editor’s role in such organic growth #editorchat

[20:17:05] JOHNABYRNE: I also think the single biggest misconception about digital journalism is that it means multi-media. #editorchat

[20:17:15] milehighfool: RT @JOHNABYRNE Early last year when he did a story on Twitter, Steve tweeted the topic sentences and asked tweeps to fill in.
#editorchat

[20:17:14] chopapi: RT @shirleybrady: Reminder: @JOHNABYRNE of BusinessWeek guest hosting #editorchat tonight, 8-9:30 pm EDT. Join in! http://twurl.nl/spbpl3

[20:17:21] PDXsays: on #editorchat… BusinessWeeks @johnabyrne leading discussion (@michellerafter)

[20:17:37] shirleybrady: If you want to check out BW’s Blogspotting blog by Twitter vets @stevebaker & @heatherlgreen visit http://is.gd/baHg #editorchat

[20:17:37] JOHNABYRNE: What digital journalism really does is allow journalists to have a different and transformed relationship with readers. #editorchat

[20:17:38] anti9to5guide: Just joining. Michelle Goodman, career columnist, ABC News. Looks like great chat already
#editorchat

[20:17:41] milehighfool: RT @JOHNABYRNE Editors and writers need to understand how to create and build communities and then how to serve them. #editorchat

[20:17:46] miltoncontact: still a lot of inertia in general public to taking up opportunities – often dominated by communiction or tech relted businesses #editorchat

[20:17:51] BeckyDMBR: @JOHNABYRNE Isn’t there a fine line between engaging readers and getting copy/info/ideas for free? #editorchat

[20:18:20] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE Editors and writers need to understand how to create and build communities and then how to serve them #editorchat

[20:18:30] PDXsays: RT: @JOHNABYRNE I also think the single biggest misconception about digital journalism is that it means multi-media. #editorchat

[20:18:37] JOHNABYRNE: Another great example from Baker was his cover story last year: “Social Media Will Change Your Business.” #editorchat

[20:18:39] mariaschneider: Problem is, once an editor/journalist can build and serve a community, what’s the need for mainstream publications? #editorchat

[20:19:08] miltoncontact: surely the problem is not how you get new ideas but what you do with them? #editorchat

[20:19:07] soultravelers3: RT @JOHNABYRNE Deeply engaging readers and converting them to partners is essential to induce loyalty and return visits. #editorchat

[20:19:11] chrisbechtel: RT @JOHNABYRNE What digital journalism does is allow journalists to have a different and transformed relationship with readers. #editorchat

[20:19:20] JOHNABYRNE: It was the most successful story of the year for us, generating the most traffic and comments–well over 4,000. #editorchat

[20:19:20] milehighfool: RT @BeckyDMBR @JOHNABYRNE Isn’t there a fine line between engaging readers and getting copy/info/ideas for free? #editorchat

[20:19:27] jimmcbee: @mariaschneider that community IS the publication.
#editorchat

[20:19:36] shirleybrady: @AlbertMaruggi Hi Albert – agree with you re @stevebaker – he was a pioneer here. #editorchat

[20:20:01] JOHNABYRNE: It was actually an update from a cover he did more than three years earlier on blogging. #editorchat

[20:20:04] miltoncontact: mainstream publications do have role as peer review or opportunities for collating material #editorchat

[20:20:04] anthonym2121: @tweditor talk about my tweets please #editorchat

[20:20:08] JDEbberly: RT @jimmcbee: @mariaschneider that community IS the publication. #editorchat

[20:20:09] phj_pdx: @TheSquare @StephStricklen If you weren’t so busy already you should be following #editorchat moderated by @JohnAByrne of BusWeek

[20:20:11] TMFZahrim: @JOHNABYRNE “Social Media Will Change Your Business.” — Yes, but most businesses struggle to understand how #editorchat

[20:20:16] JOHNABYRNE: Steve used his own blog to ask readers how things had changed since that last cover. #editorchat

[20:20:19] AlbertMaruggi: @JOHNABYRNE I have a classic story about @stephenbaker “Social Media Will Change Your Business” piece,,,
#editorchat

[20:20:28] MacDivaONA: @johnabyrne is leading tonight’s #editorchat, which should mean it’s a good session. Full disclosure, I’m a fan of his tweets.

[20:20:40] mobienthusiast: Editors, for local news on your site (not print) we need updates even w/o full story (San Diego fires, water main break) #editorchat

[20:20:40] JOHNABYRNE: Their feedback was played via hyperlinks in the old story as he began reporting his new piece on social media. #editorchat

[20:20:42] phj_pdx: e.g. RT:@JOHNABYRNE At the end the story becomes an intellectual fireplace around which the most meaningful conversations occur. #editorchat

[20:20:59] JDEbberly: RT @MacDivaONA: @johnabyrne is leading tonight’s #editorchat, which should mean it’s a good session. Full disclosure, I’m a fan of his t …

[20:20:59] Willowbottom: @mariaschneider Wouldn’t those editors/journalists still need to come together as a respected community to serve? #editorchat

[20:20:59] jennipps: RT @miltoncontact mainstream publications do have role as peer review or opportunities for collating material #editorchat

[20:21:11] BeckyDMBR: @Willowbottom I’m not talking about unformulated ideas. For ex. local newspaper wants “intensely local” news one day a week. #editorchat

[20:21:14] TMFZahrim: Social media doesn’t come easy to stodgy old behemoths like IBM, GE, even Disney under Iger #editorchat

[20:21:28] JOHNABYRNE: The result: all that interaction was used to inform the reporting of the story and we ended up w a cover that really resonated. #editorchat

[20:21:32] SpecialDee: What’s the most comprehensive tool for building a community? #editorchat

[20:21:39] mikepilarz: There’s a fascinating conversation going on over at #editorchat. Really great insight from BW’s @JOHNABYRNE, who is moderating, and others.

[20:21:41] joshchandler: RT @TMFZahrim: Social media doesn’t come easy to stodgy old behemoths like IBM, GE, even Disney under Iger #editorchat

[20:22:09] BeckyDMBR: @Willowbottom Paper “wants your photos, your stories” … etc., etc. But does paper pay? No. #editorchat

[20:22:25] JDEbberly: RT @mikepilarz: There’s a fascinating conversation going on over at #editorchat. Really great insight from BW’s @JOHNABYRNE, who is mode …

[20:22:32] jimmcbee: @TMFZahrim Nor to publishers and exec eds … try reaching them thru twitter, fb, linkedin. Ugh. #editorchat

[20:23:03] miltoncontact: most comprehensive tool for building a community is not technology itself but proactive key individuals #editorchat

[20:23:07] mobienthusiast: I mention this since not one #sandiego media person tweeted about broken water main on Monday, missed opportunity #editorchat

[20:23:09] shirleybrady: Here’s “Social Media Will Change Your Business” by Steve Baker & Heather Green – http://is.gd/40kp #editorchat

[20:23:17] littlebrownpen: Community was a big strategy during the dot-com boom. It was later abandoned as “silly.” What a difference a decade makes. #editorchat

[20:23:26] JOHNABYRNE: It’s really not about getting free content as much as it is about having respect for your audience that u want them as partners. #editorchat

[20:23:39] milehighfool: @BeckyDMBR True enough. There has to be value to participating in the community to make it work. CAPS = stock ideas. #editorchat

[20:23:39] jennipps: RT @miltoncontact most comprehensive tool for building a community is not technology itself but proactive key individuals #editorchat

[20:23:55] JOHNABYRNE: Most journalists get their respect and their reinforcement from colleagues–not the people who consume their writing. #editorchat

[20:23:56] JDEbberly: RT @miltoncontact: most comprehensive tool for building a community is not technology itself but proactive key individuals #editorchat

[20:24:04] bob_bobala: @mobienthusiast Good point! Also here in San Diego… Joining late. #editorchat

[20:24:08] SpecialDee: #editorchat I’ve been looking at the “Conversation Prism” and that’s ALOT of community bldg tools http://bit.ly/jHPEA

[20:24:23] mobienthusiast: @JOHNABYRNE I admire that you are on twitter and join the conversation. So many media people just tweet stories, don’t converse #editorchat

[20:24:33] marialavis: Business Week Ed in chief, @JOHNABYRNE , is on tweet roll right now about digital journalism etc. #editorchat Interesting.

[20:24:43] Hjulcompaniet: I wonder how many hits this #editorchat will generate for businessweek. Interesting stream from the editor in chief.

[20:24:46] JOHNABYRNE: We need to understand the people we’re writing for and open up the process of journalism to improve our ability to serve them. #editorchat

[20:25:02] mariaschneider: I’m using a WordPress blog/ VBulletin software to build a community. I’ve been on on Ning networks and find it lacking a center. #editorchat

[20:25:03] marcusborba: Following #editorchat with @JOHNABYRNE

[20:25:06] BeckyDMBR: @JOHNABYRNE Yeah, but I think we have to be careful. When “mining the gold,” sometimes we have to be willing to pay for gold. #editorchat

[20:25:06] littlebrownpen: @JOHNABYRNE Agree. Genuine conversations and debate are the antidote to lazy minds. We’re all better for it. #editorchat

[20:25:09] PDXsays: RT: @JOHNABYRNE Most journalists get their respect and reinforcement frm colleagues–not the people who consume their writing. #editorchat

[20:25:15] marciamarcia: Most journalists get their respect & reinforcement from colleagues–not the people who consume their writing. RT @JOHNABYRNE #editorchat

[20:25:38] jimmcbee: rt @JOHNABYRNE Most journalists get their respect, reinforcement from colleagues–not the people who consume their writing #editorchat

[20:25:38] TMFZahrim: RT @JOHNABYRNE: journalists get respect and reinforcement from colleagues–not the people who consume their writing #editorchat

[20:25:38] JOHNABYRNE: User engagement has become a buzz phrase of sorts. But few are really walking the talk. #editorchat

[20:25:57] shirleybrady: @SpecialDee I’ll have to check that out, looks interesting! #editorchat

[20:26:07] jennipps: RT @littlebrownpen @JOHNABYRNE Agree. Genuine conversations and debate are the antidote to lazy minds. We’re all better for it. #editorchat

[20:26:13] soultravelers3: RT @JOHNABYRNE What digital journalism does is allow journalists to have a different and transformed relationship with readers. #editorchat

[20:26:16] konadad: @JOHNABYRNE Do you consider the BW.com audience the same — or separate — from the print audience? #editorchat

[20:26:25] knitnrun: Audience as partners concept is not well-executed by many online media sites, still seeking to ‘serve’ (aka push) content. #editorchat

[20:26:29] mobienthusiast: @bob_bobala thanks. It was missed opportunity for #sandiego media to build trust. I got info re: fires from lifeguards not media #editorchat

[20:26:30] JOHNABYRNE: I think journalists aren’t creating enough gold–which I define as original, unique stories that really add value. #editorchat

[20:26:38] PDXsays: RT: @JOHNABYRNE User engagement has become a buzz phrase of sorts. But few are really walking the talk. #editorchat

[20:26:42] rockstarjen: We need 2 understand people we’re writing 4 & open up process of journalism to improve ability 2 serve them. #editorchat (via @JOHNABYRNE)

[20:26:53] milehighfool: @JOHNABYRNE So where’s the line in user engagement? When does a user become a source and what’s the editor’s role in deciding? #editorchat

[20:26:57] karenhodkinson: Following #editorchat with @JOHNABYRNE. Fascinating stuff.

[20:27:03] JOHNABYRNE: You can’t expect to be paid for commoditized journalism. How many Bernie Madoff pleads guilty stories can anyone read. #editorchat

[20:27:06] knitnrun: Twitter is a great example of where we are all building networks of partners and engaging in publishing content. #editorchat

[20:27:11] anndouglas: What media organizations are doing a really good job of engaging users, in your opinion? #editorchat

[20:27:11] tweditor: Still, engaging social media networks is just one more thing pub execs ask of journalists. Report! Blog! Film! Podcast! Tweet! #editorchat

[20:27:17] BeckyDMBR: @JOHNABYRNE I’m not just talking about papers or “traditional” media. Many sites post blogger content for free. #editorchat

[20:27:26] jennipps: RT @JOHNABYRNE I think journalists aren’t creating enough gold–which I define as original, unique stories that really add value #editorchat

[20:27:38] JDEbberly: RT @knitnrun: Twitter is a great example of where we are all building networks of partners and engaging in publishing content. #editorchat

[20:27:45] bob_bobala: @mobienthusiast yeah, i wouldn’t have even known about it if some people in my office weren’t affected. #editorchat

[20:28:10] DougH: RT @JOHNABYRNE: I think journalists aren’t creating enough gold-which I define as original unique stories that really add value #editorchat

[20:28:13] milehighfool: Let me take that broader. How do the editors here decide to leverage community? Do you use them as sources? #editorchat

[20:28:16] lisasepiphany: RT @shirleybrady: Here’s “Social Media Will Change Your Business” by Steve Baker & Heather Green – http://is.gd/40kp #editorchat… perfect.

[20:28:17] ksablan: @JOHNABYRNE doing a great job moderating #editorchat. tweets read like article on user engagement.

[20:28:21] JanSimpson: @JOHNABYR do you consider yourself a liberal journalist? #editorchat

[20:28:23] JOHNABYRNE: There’s overlap in our print and online readers but generally our online users are 10 years younger and more highly educated. #editorchat

[20:28:27] jennipps: @JOHNABYRNE For that matter, IMO, how many do people really *want* to read? (And if many, I have to wonder why.) #editorchat

[20:28:30] PDXsays: RT: @JOHNABYRNE Journalists aren’t creating enough gold–which I define as original, unique stories that really add value. #editorchat

[20:28:31] LydiaBreakfast: How closely are editors monitoring writers’ sources for this type of “gold?”
#editorchat

[20:28:40] DougH: Stumbled on #editorchat w/ @johnabyrne. whoa. Who else is taking part?

[20:28:52] JOHNABYRNE: Online readers also earn more than print readers and are more likely to be female. #editorchat

[20:28:53] BaileyMcC: RT@JOHNABYRNE:U can’t expect 2b paid for commoditized journalism. How many Bernie Madoff pleads guilty stories can anyone read. #editorchat

[20:28:58] SpecialDee: @shirleybrady I like the graphic; try it in list form and each section doesn’t seem as connected #editorchat

[20:29:13] anndouglas: RT: @JOHNABYRNE Journalists aren’t creating enough gold–which I define as original, unique stories that really add value. #editorchat

[20:29:12] mrinaldesai: @JOHNABYRNE interesting conundrum – do u write 4 what people want to read, is hot or do you tell the stories that should b told? #editorchat

[20:29:15] BeckyDMBR: @JOHNABYRNE And those sites get the reputation (incorrectly) as great bastions of “citizen journalism” or even journalism. #editorchat

[20:29:16] milehighfool: RT @JOHNABYRNE You can’t expect to be paid for commoditized journalism. #editorchat

[20:29:27] JDEbberly: @DougH Just jump on in, Doug! This is an informative discussion! #editorchat

[20:29:32] knitnrun: I think @lydiabreakfast brings up a good point. Sources are increasingly anonymous, and may be simply created in people’s minds. #editorchat

[20:29:32] JOHNABYRNE: Of our total audience, about 38% are online only; 31% magazine only & 31% are both online and print. #editorchat

[20:29:50] LydiaBreakfast: Online readers also earn more than print readers and are more likely to be female. Is anyone else seeing this? #editorchat

[20:29:51] JDEbberly: RT @ksablan: @JOHNABYRNE doing a great job moderating #editorchat. tweets read like article on user engagement.

[20:29:52] BaileyMcC: RT@JOHNABYRNE: I think journalists aren’t creating enough gold-which I define as original, unique stories that really add value. #editorchat

[20:29:57] AlbertMaruggi: @DougH that’s an interesting question who else is taking part, I guest everyone, and anyone, right, that’s the point? 🙂 #editorchat

[20:30:10] JOHNABYRNE: Editors are constantly screening ideas and stories to get more gold but it’s an imperfect process. #editorchat

[20:30:12] rebeccalweber: Letters to the editor has always been my favorite section of every magazine. #editorchat

[20:30:16] PDXsays: RT: @JOHNABYRNE …print and online readers overlap, but generally our online users are 10 years younger, more highly educated. #editorchat

[20:30:33] miltoncontact: @mrinaldesai write the stories that should be told in an interesting way to draw readers in #editorchat

[20:30:35] fromartz: interesting chat w/biz week’s John Byrne at #editorchat

[20:30:47] bob_bobala: @LydiaBreakfast Yes #editorchat

[20:30:55] JOHNABYRNE: That’s another reason engagement is key. The closer you get to your audience the more likely you are to make better judgments. #editorchat

[20:31:05] jennipps: RT @LydiaBreakfast Online readers also earn more than print readers and are more likely to be female. Is anyone else seeing this #editorchat

[20:31:07] rebeccalweber: @JOHNABYRNE What are the demographics of those who leave comments? #editorchat

[20:31:08] mobienthusiast: @JOHNABYRNE I also enjoy reading via mobile, and http://businessweek.mobi fits the bill #editorchat #mobi

[20:31:15] LifeofMichael: @knitnrun gosh i hope we haven’t all slipped to the point of “imagining” source material #editorchat

[20:31:18] jennipps: RT @JOHNABYRNE Editors are constantly screening ideas and stories to get more gold but it’s an imperfect process. #editorchat

[20:31:21] littlebrownpen: @JOHNABYRNE Commoditized journalism fueled Madoff and friend’s fires. No investigation? Go for it. We need investigative journs #editorchat

[20:31:22] knitnrun: @JOHNABYRNE How many BusinessWeek writers, editors, etc. are on Twitter? Does the org have a formal policy on usage? #editorchat

[20:31:23] Hjulcompaniet: #editorchat scripted vs unscripted.

[20:31:30] PDXsays: And here’s the gold! RT: (BusinessWeek Editor) @JOHNABYRNE Online readers earn more than print readers and more likely female. #editorchat

[20:31:39] JOHNABYRNE: @rebeccalweber The beauty of online is that there is no limit to the voices or people who can participate in “letters.” #editorchat

[20:31:48] sfwriter: @johnabyrne re: commodity journalism, did you see Murdoch’s new memo to WSJ reporters? http://is.gd/oVuP #editorchat

[20:31:48] anndouglas: Excellent point! RT @BeckyDMBR When “mining the gold,” sometimes we have to be willing to pay for gold. #editorchat

[20:32:03] marciamarcia: I’d widen @JOHNABYRNE (BusinessWeek) def of “gold” to all of social media: original, unique stories that really add value. #editorchat

[20:32:19] knitnrun: @LifeofMichael Well… you never know what creepy crawlies are lurking behind some crazy profile 🙂 #editorchat

[20:32:38] AlbertMaruggi: I’m concerned JOhn that you say closer to your readers,eg. Fox is real close to its viewers MSNBC theirs,but is that journalism? #editorchat

[20:32:58] miltoncontact: @JOHNABYRNE devils advocate – need some distance from readers for an objective or alternative view?
#editorchat

[20:33:10] BeckyDMBR: @JOHNABYRNE IMO, a site that “mines gold” w/out paying for it on same level as journo putting byline on press-release info. #editorchat

[20:33:09] PDXsays: @marciamarcia talking about whence from whose pockets the money comes from in readership… #editorchat

[20:33:23] PromoMarketer: Some really good tweets by @JOHNABYRNE on #editorchat tonite.

[20:33:25] konadad: @JOHNABYRNE How much are you influenced by reader feedback? #editorchat

[20:33:33] mobienthusiast: Business Week Editor-in-Chief @JOHNABYRNE is now moderating discussion about journalism & social media #editorchat

[20:33:40] JOHNABYRNE: We now have nearly 30 blogs, over 40 editors and writers who tweet, 4,400 videos on the site, a dozen podcasts. #editorchat

[20:33:48] rebeccalweber: @JOHNABYRNE Exactly! Except that the editors usually do a good job of editing the letters… #editorchat

[20:33:52] JDEbberly: RT @mobienthusiast: Business Week Editor-in-Chief @JOHNABYRNE is now moderating discussion about journalism & social media #editorchat

[20:33:57] LydiaBreakfast: @BeckyDMBR I think they call that “churnalism” 😉 #editorchat

[20:34:04] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: We now have nearly 30 blogs, over 40 editors and writers who tweet, 4,400 videos on the site, a dozen podcasts. #editorchat

[20:34:11] JOHNABYRNE: And we’re employing everything from Ning to Facebook, Flickr and YouTube to engage and interact with readers. #editorchat

[20:34:17] bob_bobala: @PDXsays I think it depends on subject matter. When I was at Motley Fool, our investor audience was older than we anticipated #editorchat

[20:34:37] TMFZahrim: @JOHNABYRNE 30 blogs 40 tweeps etc, yes — but is there a policy or did it just happen? #editorchat

[20:34:38] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: And we’re employing everything from Ning to Facebook, Flickr and YouTube to engage and interact with readers. #editorchat

[20:34:58] mathewi: RT @JOHNABYRNE: You can’t expect to be paid for commoditized journalism. How many Bernie Madoff stories can anyone read #editorchat

[20:34:58] SpecialDee: Are online readers getting their news via feeds? even their local news? #editorchat

[20:35:10] JOHNABYRNE: We don’t have a formal policy on Twitter and some writers prefer to keep their accounts private and personal. #editorchat

[20:35:16] shirleybrady: Just counted: we now have 47 BW edit folks on Twitter – here’s the list: http://is.gd/bnNs #editorchat

[20:35:20] BeckyDMBR: @LydiaBreakfast Ah, thank you. I knew there was a word for it. 🙂 #editorchat

[20:35:23] milehighfool: @bob_bobala They still are. But the community is wide-ranging. Therein lies the difficulty. Which community sources do you trust #editorchat

[20:35:25] vegtv: @DougH Too many bloggers Anyone with a website can gush whatever is on their mind. Some Vgood but Journaling is not Journalism #editorchat

[20:35:35] mobienthusiast: Retweet @ JOHNABYRNE: we’re employing everything from Ning to Facebook, Flickr & YouTube to engage and interact with readers. #editorchat

[20:35:41] JDEbberly: RT @shirleybrady: Just counted: we now have 47 BW edit folks on Twitter – here’s the list: http://is.gd/bnNs #editorchat

[20:35:53] merylkevans: @SpecialDee Online readers get news many ways: RSS, email, aggregator sites (ie Digg), and known media sites. #editorchat

[20:35:54] marciamarcia: We’re employing everything from Ning to FB, Flickr & YouTube to engage and interact with readers. via @JOHNABYRNE (40+ tweet) #editorchat

[20:36:27] mobienthusiast: Retweet shirleybrady: Just counted: we now have 47 BW edit folks on Twitter – here’s the list: http://is.gd/bnNs #editorchat

[20:36:29] vojtech: RT @JOHNABYRNE Online readers also earn more than print readers and are more likely to be female. #editorchat

[20:36:32] JOHNABYRNE: I’m greatly influenced by reader feedback. We’ve corrected stories on it. And we’ve done many stories based on reader ideas. #editorchat

[20:36:42] SpecialDee: On your site, can visitors leave comments by “signing in” with just a screen name or do they have to register? #editorchat

[20:36:56] AlbertMaruggi: @johnabyrne I’d like to share my two favorite journalism sites http://www.frontlineclub.com/ and http://www.nextnewsroom.com/ #editorchat

[20:37:07] JDEbberly: RT @vojtech: RT @JOHNABYRNE Online readers also earn more than print readers and are more likely to be female. #editorchat

[20:37:06] PDXsays: @JOHNABYRNE had u reviewed policies – such as Intel and Dell have – to make that decision about accounts? #editorchat

[20:37:10] knitnrun: @shirleybrady thanks for the list of BW folks on Twitter. #editorchat

[20:37:12] RandomReTweet: RT @JDEbberly RT @vojtech: RT @JOHNABYRNE Online readers also earn more than print readers and are more likely to be female. #editorchat

[20:37:17] konadad: @JOHNABYRNE If I’m not mistaken, the NYTimes has a formal policy on the use of social networking sites by their editors. #editorchat

[20:37:18] shirleybrady: Can’t forget our colleagues at @BWBX + BW tech folks and other non-edit here, too. All on for different reasons – not mandated! #editorchat

[20:37:18] shortformblog: Hey all. Ernie Smith, news designer, Wash. Post’s Express; editor, http://shortformblog.com/. @jimmcbee is a buddy of mine. #editorchat

[20:37:41] bob_bobala: @JOHNABYRNE Heck, at the Fool we hired people right out of the community (see Tim Beyers) #editorchat

[20:37:48] tweditor: @JOHNABYRNE You are in an enviable position to receive feedback. Many trade pubs, smaller pubs, receive little (from prison). 🙂 #editorchat

[20:37:58] Willowbottom: @JOHNABYRNE Realizing that you’re greatly influenced by reader feedback/story ideas, how do you ensure ur mission is consistent? #editorchat

[20:38:09] JOHNABYRNE: If we’re quoting from a Tweet stream, our policy is to ask the user if we can do so–particularly if it’s a non-public person. #editorchat

[20:38:34] JOHNABYRNE: Online only stories are usually shorter and more to the point. But that’s not always true. #editorchat

[20:38:37] LydiaBreakfast: A reminder tweeps. Stay on topic and BE POLITE. #editorchat

[20:38:40] AlbertMaruggi: @johnabyrne can you share criteria for determining which stories are video, audio podcast or blog candidates? #editorchat

[20:38:45] mariaschneider: Would you ever quote from social media if you couldn’t confirm the source? #editorchat

[20:38:54] TMFZahrim: RT @bob_bobala: Heck, at the Fool we hired people right out of the community (I’m another example) #editorchat

[20:39:03] jennipps: RT @JOHNABYRNE Online only stories are usually shorter and more to the point. But that’s not always true. #editorchat

[20:39:08] SpecialDee: Also, do visitors have to fill in a form if they want to connect w/staff or does an email form open up? #editorchat

[20:39:10] AlbertMaruggi: @Willowbottom great question on mission, had same thoughts

[20:39:43] JOHNABYRNE: Most magazine writers tackle a topic in one story and walk away from it for space reasons. #editorchat

[20:39:44] shirleybrady: @AlbertMaruggi Must check those out (thx) #editorchat

[20:39:48] mobienthusiast: Journalists, which one of your publications has a mobile site with .mobi extension? I’m making a directory #editorchat #mobi

[20:39:57] rebeccalweber: @mariaschneider Wouldn’t want to quote *anybody if you couldn’t confirm the source #editorchat

[20:39:57] bob_bobala: @TMFZahrim Hi, Anders! #editorchat

[20:40:09] JOHNABYRNE: Online, you can keep coming back as if you were writing for a daily newspaper. And you can do more series reporting online. #editorchat

[20:40:31] milehighfool: So if community is the watchword, isn’t all news about to become news analysis? Capturing the zeitgeist? #editorchat

[20:40:37] foleymo: Who’s moderating? What’s the question? #editorchat

[20:40:39] chadrem: @JOHNABYRNE and then there’s fivethirtyeight.com 😉 #editorchat

[20:40:39] AlbertMaruggi: @shirleybrady frontline is Indie journalists in war torn countries and oppressed areas. How they do it is amazing. #editorchat

[20:40:57] merylkevans: @JOHNABYRNE Online makes it possible to reference things though links instead of explaining them every time. #editorchat

[20:41:00] wardchristianj: @JOHNABYRNE #editorchat That is an interesting policy on the quoting of Tweet. It is very hard to know who is whom…

[20:41:13] milehighfool: RT @JOHNABYRNE Online, you can keep coming back as if you were writing for a daily newspaper. And you can do more series. #editorchat

[20:41:15] JOHNABYRNE: Good question on what becomes a story, a video, a slideshow, a podcast, a narrated photo essay, etc. #editorchat

[20:41:28] marciamarcia: So if community is the watchword, isn’t all news about to become news analysis? Capturing the zeitgeist? via @milehighfool #editorchat

[20:41:30] GinaLaGuardia: @milehighfool Hey — sneaking in late tonight. Can’t wait to catch up/jump in. : #editorchat

[20:41:36] JOHNABYRNE: We have an interesting video strategy. Most sites silo off their video into some sort of ghetto. #editorchat

[20:41:38] wolfemanmatt: @JOHNABYRNE In addition to coming back to topics, the ability to share past coverage is something that’s impossible in print. #editorchat

[20:41:44] jennipps: RT @merylkevans @JOHNABYRNE Online makes it possible to reference things though links instead of explaining them every time. #editorchat

[20:41:49] AlbertMaruggi: @shirleybrady Next Newsroom is Duke U, project led by Mercury News Biz writer Chris O’brien -6 principles of new newsroom. #editorchat

[20:42:08] JOHNABYRNE: I think they use the computer screen like a 1950s TV set by siloing off video clips. #editorchat

[20:42:11] jimmcbee: @milehighfool Community’s critical, but someone must ask the tough questions. Officially or otherwise. Or wait for Jon Stewart. #editorchat

[20:42:21] LydiaBreakfast: @GinaLaGuardia Hi Gina, so glad you could make it 🙂 #editorchat

[20:42:25] DougH: RT @JOHNABYRNE: If we’re quoting from a Tweet stream, our policy is to ask if we can do so-partic if it’s a non-public person. #editorchat

[20:42:28] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE Online makes it possible to reference things though links instead of explaining them every time. #editorchat

[20:42:35] JOHNABYRNE: We’re trying to integrate video with text, placing complementary videos inside stories to change the user experience. #editorchat

[20:42:41] knitnrun: @JOHNABYRNE Interested in risk to BW brand if someone becomes disgruntled and is affiliated with BW. No policy, what do you do? #editorchat

[20:42:55] GinaLaGuardia: @LydiaBreakfast Hey Lydia. Happy to be here. Thanks! #editorchat

[20:42:59] dmac1: For biz journalists, being on Twitter is not only about being where the reader is, it’s often where the source is #editorchat

[20:43:06] rogeroldham: RT @JOHNABYRNE: U can’t expect to be paid for commoditized journalism. How many Madoff pleads guilty stories can anyone read #editorchat

[20:43:21] marciamarcia: @wolfemanmatt Weaving the thread through pieces over time adds in a wonderful new dimension and richness to stories. #editorchat

[20:43:30] JOHNABYRNE: If you put the video in your most highly trafficked stories and you make sure it’s not redundant, you integrate it all. #editorchat

[20:43:39] milehighfool: A tip for tweeps using TweetDeck or another client. You can also filter @colorsign if you prefer. #editorchat

[20:43:42] littlebrownpen: @jimmcbee A lot of the tough questions come from the community. The community holds you accountable to an extent. #editorchat

[20:43:54] ATLCheap: Jennifer Maciejewski, Atlanta-based writer & blogger. Interesting discussion so far; look forward to catching up & jumping in. #editorchat

[20:44:02] wolfemanmatt: RT @JOHNABYRNE We’re trying to integrate video with text, placing complementary videos inside stories to change user experience. #editorchat

[20:44:10] JOHNABYRNE: We’ve been able to quadruple the monthly video streams with this new strategy with no increase in resources & fewer videos. #editorchat

[20:44:14] jennipps: @milehighfool Just found that feature in Tweetchat too under User Control. #editorchat

[20:44:18] shirleybrady: @AlbertMaruggi Thanks for flagging, Albert! #editorchat

[20:44:38] GinaLaGuardia: @ATLCheap Hey — are you the Jennifer I know? 🙂 #editorchat

[20:44:39] rebeccalweber: Off to bed. Hope a future session can be a few hours earlier, engage us folks east of the Atlantic! #editorchat

[20:44:45] dodgemedlin: San Diego U-T asst. news editor here, leaping onto the moving train that is #editorchat. #editorchat

[20:44:48] MikeLizun: RT @dmac1: For biz journalists, being on Twitter is not only about being where the reader is, it’s often where the source is #editorchat

[20:45:21] JOHNABYRNE: I think it’s premature to write the obituary for the American newspaper. In both Denver and Seattle….#editorchat

[20:45:26] LydiaBreakfast: @rebeccalweber Glad you made it for part of the chat – thanks! #editorchat

[20:45:33] jimmcbee: @littlebrownpen We need to get good at harnessing communities tough questions, instead of fearing them. #editorchat

[20:45:39] ekarofsky: Great tweets by @JOHNABYRNE at #editorchat

[20:45:42] anndouglas: RT @dmac1 For biz journalists, being on Twitter is not only about being where the reader is, it’s often where the source is #editorchat

[20:45:53] konadad: @JOHNABYRNE Curious. Which gets more BW.com traffic: a story, a video, a slideshow, a podcast, a narrated photo essay? #editorchat

[20:45:54] fromartz: @johnabyrne do videos get more traffic than stories #editorchat

[20:45:59] JOHNABYRNE: We had victims of what Warren Buffett called “The Survival of the Fattest.” #editorchat

[20:46:00] GinaLaGuardia: Hi, #editorchat, @JOHNABYRNE… Former magazine EIC, online editorial director here — doing my best to catch up. 🙂

[20:46:03] milehighfool: @rebeccalweber Thanks for joining. Say hi to my friends in Jo’burg and on the Cape. #editorchat

[20:46:21] JOHNABYRNE: Denver & Seattle were two-newspaper towns and the fattest ones won the war. #editorchat

[20:46:25] PDXsays: HUZZAH! RT: @JOHNABYRNE I think it’s premature to write the obituary for the American newspaper. In both Denver and Seattle….#editorchat

[20:46:31] BaileyMcC: RT @dmac1 For biz journalists, being on Twitter is not only about being where the reader is, it’s often where the source is #editorchat

[20:46:32] shortformblog: @johnabyrne I agree. Newspapers aren’t dead yet – though the massive debt their companies are under isn’t helping. #editorchat

[20:46:42] KamaTimbrell: Note authors. Read. RT @JOHNABYRNE: Most magazine writers tackle a topic in one story and walk away from it for space reasons. #editorchat

[20:46:48] JOHNABYRNE: That said, we’re going into a very painful and difficult transition that will see a lot of newspapers go out of business. #editorchat

[20:46:54] mobienthusiast: @dodgemedlin is San Diego U-T asst. news editor, thanks for joining #editorchat #sandiego

[20:46:55] anti9to5guide: Thx for the great insights. Going to jump of and catch a slice of rare Seattle sunshine. Michelle Goodman, freelance writer #editorchat

[20:47:01] JOHNABYRNE: Last year, more than 500 magazine titles in the U.S. went kaput. #editorchat

[20:47:09] shirleybrady: @rebeccalweber Any questions/topics you’d like addressed? Transcript will be posted here later: http://is.gd/jdzo #editorchat

[20:47:16] GinaLaGuardia: RT @JOHNABYRNE: …engagement is key. The closer you get to your audience, the more likely you are to make better judgments. #editorchat

[20:47:30] milehighfool: @anti9to5guide Thanks for stopping in, Michelle. #editorchat

[20:47:36] JDEbberly: RT @rebeccalweber Any questions/topics you’d like addressed? Transcript will be posted here later: http://is.gd/jdzo #editorchat

[20:47:37] LydiaBreakfast: @anti9to5guide Thanks for coming Michelle 🙂 #editorchat

[20:47:38] ESedlockGrammer: RT @JOHNABYRNE Last year, more than 500 magazine titles in the U.S. went kaput. #editorchat

[20:47:38] JOHNABYRNE: But newspapers and magazines that deliver unique value will make it. They just have to change–dramatically. #editorchat

[20:47:58] janeco: hi everyone, another time conflict, what’d I miss? #editorchat

[20:48:01] MikeLizun: RT @konadad: @JOHNABYRNE Curious. Which gets more BW.com traffic: story, video, slideshow, podcast, a narrated photo essay? #editorchat

[20:48:04] colorsign: @JOHNABYRNE And what was so bad about was that it didn’t have to happen. But you quit advocating for your readers. #editorchat

[20:48:04] dfiske: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Last year, more than 500 magazine titles in the U.S. went kaput. #editorchat

[20:48:04] PDXsays: RT: @JOHNABYRNE Last year, more than 500 magazine titles in the U.S. went kaput. #editorchat

[20:48:07] Willowbottom: @JOHNABYRNE At an emotional level, how do ur staff deal w/pubs “kaputting” knowing they’re competition but also it’s a bad sign? #editorchat

[20:48:12] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: But newspapers and magazines that deliver unique value will make it. They just have to change–dramatically. #editorchat

[20:48:16] milehighfool: @JOHNABYRNE I wonder how many Web magazines went with them. Too many, I’m sure. #editorchat

[20:48:23] jtlongandco: Where will the journalists go after the newsrooms close? What jobs need their transferrable skills? #editorchat

[20:48:29] shortformblog: @johnabyrne Do you think the Maryland senator’s proposal to save newspapers will help? Or is it an affront to freedom of speech? #editorchat

[20:48:27] waynesutton: Retweet @dmac1 For biz journalists, being on Twitter is not only about being where the reader is, it’s often where the source is #editorchat

[20:48:29] JOHNABYRNE: An individual slideshow generates the most traffic largely because there are more pages to see. #editorchat

[20:48:33] littlebrownpen: RT @JOHNABYRNE: But newspapers and magazines that deliver unique value will make it. They just have to change–dramatically. #editorchat

[20:48:47] dodgemedlin: @JOHNABYRNE We *all* ought to be delivering unique value. Any pub. that doesn’t deserves what it gets. #editorchat

[20:48:48] BeckyDMBR: @JOHNABYRNE Yeah, I’m thinking the fattest newspapers won’t last in the current model. #editorchat

[20:48:55] wolfemanmatt: @JOHNABYRNE What do the newspapers have to change? The content, delivery, or business model? #editorchat

[20:48:55] shirleybrady: @dmac1 Welcome Doug MacMillan! One of BW’s tech writers & a SM ace – great use at #SXSW etc. Any Q’s for a BW reporter? #editorchat

[20:49:08] mobienthusiast: @JOHNABYRNE the million dollar question is how can newspapers transition to online/mobile and stay in business? #editorchat

[20:49:19] shortformblog: @johnabyrne (To clarify, specifically freedom of the press.) #editorchat

[20:49:19] a2editor: @JOHNABYRNE My hometown paper just announced that it’s closing in July after 174 yrs. But it was not delivering unique value… #editorchat

[20:49:21] MikeLizun: RT @JOHNABYRNE: An individual slideshow generates the most traffic largely because there are more pages to see. #editorchat

[20:49:30] konadad: @JOHNABYRNE Your thoughts on the Stewart/Cramer smackdown? #editorchat

[20:49:31] knitnrun: @JOHNABYRNE Too late for newspapers touted as knockin’ on death’s door? Will pressure lead to radical transformation? #editorchat

[20:49:32] rajmanohar21: RT@JOHNABYRNEWe had victims of what Warren Buffett called “The Survival of the Fattest.” #editorchat

[20:49:48] tweditor: Rolling Stone editor wrote (paraph.) What if some cyberterrorist zaps communications infrastructure? You’ll wish for newspapers. #editorchat

[20:49:49] JOHNABYRNE: It’s a tough time to be a journalist today. So there are a lot of very worried people in the biz. #editorchat

[20:49:49] marciamarcia: @jtlongandco Before hiring downturn I saw companies & nonprofits hiring journalists to capture the stories that create culture. #editorchat

[20:49:50] PDXsays: RT @JOHNABYRNE But newspapers and magazines that deliver unique value will make it. They just have to change–dramatically. #editorchat

[20:49:55] jtlongandco: @rebeccalweber RT Any questions/topics you’d like addressed? Transcript will be posted here later: http://is.gd/jdzo #editorchat

[20:49:57] merylkevans: @mobienthusiast Newspapers need to interact with social media and bridge print with web. #editorchat

[20:49:58] littlebrownpen: @jtlongandco The world needs intelligent thought. They will rise to the top. #editorchat

[20:50:07] anndouglas: @johnabyrne, Do you find it is works best to offer video clip in short segments which are distributed throughout story or 1 pc? #editorchat

[20:50:14] kristoforlawson: @JOHNABYRNE – the problem to me seems to be newspaper’s reliance on advertising. The need to get back to making quality content! #editorchat

[20:50:16] JDEbberly: RT @merylkevans: @mobienthusiast Newspapers need to interact with social media and bridge print with web. #editorchat

[20:50:30] milehighfool: @dmac1 Glad you could make it, Doug. #editorchat

[20:50:30] JOHNABYRNE: @a2editor And what’s surprising is that it had served a smart and vibrant community in Ann Arbor. #editorchat

[20:50:48] mobienthusiast: Local media needs to provide instant local emergency info prominently on front page of sites, not run the story later in the day #editorchat

[20:51:05] mikepilarz: As a reader, I’m finding myself reprioritize my “must-read” publications, favoring those whose journalists tweet & do it well #editorchat

[20:51:06] PDXsays: @JOHNABYRNE I think that is true of almost all biz, with transitions to SM and economy #editorchat

[20:51:18] JOHNABYRNE: I think there are three absolutes in today’s media world. You can argue any of them but I maintain they’re pretty much true. #editorchat

[20:51:22] pjackson: RT @JOHNABYRNE newspapers and magazines that deliver unique value will make it. Just have to change–dramatically. #editorchat >> AGREE.

[20:51:34] a2editor: @JOHNABYRNE They say we’re ready for a switch to online-only b/c we’re a tech-savvy community, but it’s certainly not the same. #editorchat

[20:51:46] dodgemedlin: @mobienthusiast More sites are doing that, w/blog-style entries on the home page, esp. during emergencies. #editorchat

[20:51:47] knitnrun: @kristoforlawson Great point on reliance on advertising $$$ for revenue. Where will new rev streams emerge for survivors? #editorchat

[20:51:48] kristoforlawson: RT @JOHNABYRNE: It’s a tough time to be a journalist today. So there are a lot of very worried people in the biz. #editorchat

[20:51:59] LydiaBreakfast: @JOHNABYRNE And a lot of brand new freelancers. Do you think pubs will continue to use them in lieu of hiring permanent staff? #editorchat

[20:52:14] ivanoransky: Great chat going on involving Twitter journalist master @JOHNABYRNE right now at #editorchat

[20:52:18] miltoncontact: lets get real, there must be income to support journalism & journalists for medium to survive, current shift away from consumer #editorchat

[20:52:24] knitnrun: Great point @kristoforlawson on reliance on advertising $$$ for revenue. Where will new rev streams emerge for survivors? #editorchat

[20:52:27] shortformblog: @kristoforlawson Focusing on content isn’t an option when the ad market is in the toilet, it seems. #editorchat

[20:52:28] jtlongandco: I see journalists going to pr, political, academia, marketing, of course web (if they don’t need to eat). Where else? #editorchat

[20:52:32] smallbizlady: RT @waynesutton @dmac1 For biz journalists, being on Twitter is not only about being where the reader is, it’s often the source #editorchat

[20:52:37] JOHNABYRNE: 2) Online advertising cannot offset the print decline or save a print product. Too much online inventory from too many rivals. #editorchat

[20:52:43] JDEbberly: RT @ivanoransky: Great chat going on involving Twitter journalist master @JOHNABYRNE right now at #editorchat

[20:52:45] milehighfool: @dmac1 You’re on the front lines. How much of writing is informed by the BW community? Twitter? #editorchat

[20:52:45] janeco: @LydiaBreakfast I would think freelancers keep the overhead down #editorchat

[20:52:45] anndouglas: RT @johnabyrne Last year, more than 500 magazine titles in the U.S. went kaput. #editorchat

[20:52:49] mitchjoel: You are focusing on content. I say focus on the advertising. Newspapers sell advertising, not content. Learn those new models. #editorchat

[20:52:58] BeckyDMBR: @JOHNABYRNE Who are the most involved social-media journalists you know? @newmediajim and @ricksanchezcnn top my list. #editorchat

[20:53:02] JOHNABYRNE: 3) Subscribers will generally not pay for content unless it’s original, unique value-added. #editorchat

[20:53:11] mobienthusiast: @merylkevans my beef: local emergency stories not tweeted or on front page of local media, i.e. fires/water main break #sandiego #editorchat

[20:53:11] jeffkart: @JOHNABYRNE they said radio, movies and tv would kill us. newspapers that adapt(ed) will survive. #editorchat

[20:53:17] shortformblog: To go along with my comments about ad revenue, I suggest you guys check out http://revenuetwopointzero.com/ #rev2oh #editorchat

[20:53:21] CathyWebSavvyPR: @JOHNABYRNE the million dollar question is how can newspapers transition to online/mobile and stay in business? #editorchat

[20:53:21] JOHNABYRNE: The upshot: Nothing less than radical transformation is necessary to succeed in the future. #editorchat

[20:53:41] JOHNABYRNE: Problem is, most people in media cling to those three absolutes as if they are white lies and don’t change. #editorchat

[20:53:44] phdinparenting: @anndouglas I subscribed to one of them….not happy! #editorchat

[20:53:50] CathyWebSavvyPR: RT @JOHNABYRNE 3) Subscribers will generally not pay for content unless it’s original, unique value-added. #editorchat

[20:53:52] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: The upshot: Nothing less than radical transformation is necessary to succeed in the future. #editorchat

[20:53:59] JOHNABYRNE: So they cling to the hope that print advertising will come back. #editorchat

[20:54:07] knitnrun: @LydiaBreakfast Maybe nat’l heathcare will happen is the demise of corporate emps in so many industries like pub (freelancers) #editorchat

[20:54:10] shortformblog: I took part in #rev2oh over the weekend, and we tried coming up with ad models even though we’re editorial people. #editorchat

[20:54:11] ATLCheap: @GinaLaGuardia Why, yes I am the Jennifer you know. So many great tweets, it’s tricky catching up tonight. #editorchat

[20:54:12] littlebrownpen: @JOHNABYRNE What are your thoughts on that transformation? Seems BW is ahead of the curve. #editorchat

[20:54:13] PDXsays: @CathyWebSavvyPR printing is a huge investment to just toss over, true #editorchat

[20:54:19] JOHNABYRNE: They think that some day online advertising will offset the print decline and help support a broken print model. #editorchat

[20:54:19] merylkevans: @mobienthusiast My local paper and some TV news stations are good about posting breaking news on its home page. #editorchat

[20:54:25] bob_bobala: We’re talking a lot about the downfall of print. But there’s more opportunity than ever to get your stuff out in the world. #editorchat

[20:54:29] janeco: RT @JOHNABYRNE: The upshot: Nothing less than radical transformation is necessary to succeed in the future. #editorchat

[20:54:39] CathyBrowne: RT @mitchjoel: You are focusing on content. I say focus on the advertising. Newspapers sell advertising, not content.#editorchat

[20:54:44] broksas: I shouldn’t be surprised RT @JOHNABYRNE: Last year, more than 500 magazine titles in the U.S. went kaput. #editorchat

[20:54:54] bob_bobala: You just have to be skilled enough to get the cream to rise to the top. #editorchat

[20:54:56] JOHNABYRNE: And they think that their competitors will die and therefore they’ll be able to charge for content. #editorchat

[20:55:01] shortformblog: You have to think outside the box, really, to save this industry. And thinking about ads might just be the ticket. #rev2oh #editorchat

[20:55:07] dodgemedlin: @shortformblog Rev2.0 came up with a lot of good stuff. It’ll be interesting to see how it’s put into practice. #editorchat

[20:55:12] kristoforlawson: @shortformblog – newspapers definitely need to worry about content first. People buy stuff if its actually worth reading #editorchat

[20:55:18] JOHNABYRNE: All these things prevent incumbents from embracing the transformational changes they need to survive and succeed. #editorchat

[20:55:24] jimmcbee: rt @JOHNABYRNE Subscribers will generally not pay for content unless it’s original, unique value-added. #editorchat

[20:55:32] WriteNowBiz: Isn’t it true the ‘turnover’ of online is more? Things seem “old news” faster? #editorchat

[20:55:35] miltoncontact: Time for bed here in Cambridge, thanks for interesting chat
#editorchat

[20:55:37] ginakay: @JOHNABYRNE Tough 2 B journalist > confirming a story’s validity is difficult, particularly if story seeds/threads are online? #editorchat

[20:55:36] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: And they think that their competitors will die and therefore they’ll be able to charge for content. #editorchat

[20:55:38] GinaLaGuardia: @ATLCheap Excellent — nice to see you on here. Following you. 🙂 And yes, I’m doing my best to read-read-read. 🙂 #editorchat

[20:55:43] gfcorbett: RT @JOHNABYRNE 3) Subscribers will generally not pay for content unless it’s original, unique value-added. #editorchat

[20:55:50] colorsign: @JOHNABYRNE Only David Faber has come close to telling me (and most others I figure) about toxic assets. Will print get it? #editorchat

[20:55:53] knitnrun: RT @JOHNABYRNE: They think that some day online advertising will offset the print decline and help support a broken print model. #editorchat

[20:56:01] dmac1: @milehighfool Few stories I write get published on BW without being vetted by readers at some point in process #editorchat

[20:56:08] PDXsays: @JOHNABYRNE that’s morose.. wait for you neighbor to die of the plague to raid their food pantry…? surely that is not a biz mo #editorchat

[20:56:12] JDEbberly: @miltoncontact See you next week, Milton! Nice reading your tweets! #editorchat

[20:56:13] shortformblog: @kristoforlawson Tell that to the people paying our paychecks. I’ve already been laid off once in the last six months. #editorchat

[20:56:16] dodgemedlin: @bob_bobala That’s the irony. More people are reading newspapers’ stuff than ever before. It’s the money that’s the problem. #editorchat

[20:56:18] BeckyDMBR: @JOHNABYRNE Print advertising is not coming back. What papers need to learn is successful online biz models. #editorchat

[20:56:22] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE 3) Subscribers will generally not pay for content unless it’s original, unique value-added. #editorchat

[20:56:25] jennipps: @kristoforlawson Definitely. Local paper here alternates mostly advertising/articles. I’ve seen it said they sell more w/article #editorchat

[20:56:43] leighgrace: Last year, more than 500 magazine titles in the U.S. went kaput. #editorchat (via @JOHNABYRNE)

[20:56:44] JOHNABYRNE: Transformation is really hard and painful. That’s why a lot of players aren’t going to make it. #editorchat

[20:56:47] chuckhemann: RT @JOHNABYRNE: They think that some day online advertising will offset the print decline and help support a broken print model. #editorchat

[20:56:51] MikeLizun: RT @dmac1: @milehighfool Few stories I write get published on BW without being vetted by readers at some point in process #editorchat

[20:57:02] JOHNABYRNE: I had a fascinating discussion this afternoon with our chief economist Mike Mandell. #editorchat

[20:57:04] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Transformation is really hard and painful. That’s why a lot of players aren’t going to make it. #editorchat

[20:57:04] mitchjoel: What is Craigslist and Huffington Post doing right? Why aren’t newspapers and magazines doing that? #editorchat.

[20:57:09] marciamarcia: User engagement has become a buzz phrase (few are really walking the talk) in journalism & society at large. #editorchat

[20:57:15] JOHNABYRNE: He maintains that within three years, there will be a media boom. #editorchat

[20:57:26] littlebrownpen: Anyone else willing to pay for content? I do and am, but most people aren’t there yet. #editorchat

[20:57:27] knitnrun: @WriteNowBiz Turnover is fast. Even on Twitter I see links several days old. If not today’s date, I try not to link. #editorchat

[20:57:38] JOHNABYRNE: It will largely occur through entrepreneurship and the ease of entry into the business via the Net. #editorchat

[20:57:36] JDEbberly: RT @marciamarcia: User engagement has become a buzz phrase (few are really walking the talk) in journalism & society at large. #editorchat

[20:57:39] shortformblog: rt @JOHNABYRNE Transformation is really hard and painful. That’s why a lot of players aren’t going to make it. #editorchat #editorchat

[20:57:39] edwardboches: agree with John #editorchat, I was Creative Director for MPA for years, and also head an ad agency, print adv is over

[20:57:51] BaileyMcC: Look over @JOHNABYRNE ‘s stream for some much needed realism about where we stand on journalism/newspapers et al as he moderates #editorchat

[20:57:54] LydiaBreakfast: @JOHNABYRNE Does that mean more community content? If so will it require more or less staff? #editorchat

[20:57:55] JOHNABYRNE: A new generation of entrepreneur/journalists will emerge to lead this boom. #editorchat

[20:57:56] mitchjoel: It’s actually not about the content. It’s about debt and legacy contracts and unions that leave them unable to evolve. #editorchat.

[20:57:56] kathyoreilly: totally agree @CathyWebSavvyPR @JOHNABYRNE Subscribers r more likely 2 pay 4 content they can’t find anywhere else #editorchat

[20:58:05] dmac1: Sometimes, comments to previous stories or discussions on Twitter help form ideas. Other times, I have a story & I ask for input #editorchat

[20:58:16] anndouglas: RT @BeckyDMBR Print advertising is not coming back. What papers need to learn is successful online biz models. #editorchat

[20:58:18] BeckyDMBR: @littlebrownpen Depends on the content. #editorchat

[20:58:25] bob_bobala: @dodgemedlin Agreed. From a writer’s perspective you probably have to write more across disciplines to have an impact and $ #editorchat

[20:58:30] JOHNABYRNE: And it will result in a media bubble. Part of the logic is based on the removal of the big costs of production & distribution. #editorchat

[20:58:28] kristoforlawson: @jennipps – i stopped buying my local paper because it was all advertising and no quality content. I felt ripped off. #editorchat

[20:58:30] howlvenice: Print magazines are just like the car companies. acknowledging disruptive technologies too late to maintain existing revenues. #editorchat

[20:58:34] MimiAndelman: Local papers do own one thing — local news. Now cover it! #editorchat

[20:58:37] billso: RT @johnabyrne “Last year, more than 500 magazine titles in the USA went kaput. #editorchat

[20:58:44] shortformblog: @littlebrownpen I think people should pay for the model, not the content. Add value to the model – iPhone apps are one way. #editorchat

[20:58:44] JOHNABYRNE: Right now, though, it’s hard to imagine us having a media boom, no less a media bubble. #editorchat

[20:58:46] rajmanohar21: rt@JOHNABYRNEA new generation of entrepreneur/journalists will emerge to lead this boom. #editorchat

[20:58:49] edwardboches: #editorchat challenge will be how to connect on niche special interest basis and add very narrow value, rather than broad to gen $$

[20:59:00] jimmcbee: rt @JOHNABYRNE news transformation will occur through entrepreneurship and the ease of entry via the Net. #editorchat

[20:59:10] rajmanohar21: RT@JOHNABYRNEIt will largely occur through entrepreneurship and the ease of entry into the business via the Net. #editorchat

[20:59:11] jeremymeyers: @JOHNABYRNE John you should consolidate all of this information into a blog post #editorchat

[20:59:12] milehighfool: Isn’t a media boom already underway? Twitter, blogs, even Facebook. This is all media in some form. Just not the media we know. #editorchat

[20:59:12] sfwriter: I can’t wait for that boom! Sounds like much more fun than watching newspapers die. #editorchat

[20:59:13] TMFZahrim: Web has been niche while print was mainstream. Role reversal going on. #editorchat

[20:59:14] GinaLaGuardia: Rock on! RT @JOHNABYRNE: A new generation of entrepreneur/journalists will emerge to lead this [media] boom. #editorchat

[20:59:15] ajkeen: examples? please name names, John RT @JOHNABYRNE A new generation of entrepreneur/journalists will emerge to lead this boom. #editorchat

[20:59:20] JOHNABYRNE: I think hyper-local sites have a good future and that should mean more community journalism. #editorchat

[20:59:20] jtlongandco: Craigslist and Huffpo don’t pay their writers. How is that sustainable? #editorchat

[20:59:22] JDEbberly: rt @JOHNABYRNE news transformation will occur through entrepreneurship and the ease of entry via the Net. #editorchat

[20:59:26] jennipps: @kristoforlawson I do too. And too much late news. Then again, newspaper print is hard for me to read, but my dad gets it. #editorchat

[20:59:30] PDXsays: @JOHNABYRNE spoke w/ a tech start up last week who is doing just that.news such as that… but where is the credibility of truth #editorchat

[20:59:38] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: I think hyper-local sites have a good future and that should mean more community journalism. #editorchat

[20:59:40] StevePR104: @CathyBrowne wait…newspapers deliver audience. If people can get their content from elsewhere, they no longer need papers. #editorchat

[20:59:44] shortformblog: @littlebrownpen The ads pay for your paycheck. The three quarters you drop in the box pay for (some of) the newsprint. #editorchat

[20:59:46] AlbertMaruggi: @mitchjoel when you say unions, let’s call it quality of life wage. it issue is laid off local journalist can’t make a living #editorchat

[20:59:54] benhedrington: John Byrne is Tweeting some powerful stuff about the future of print media right now… Wow! http://bit.ly/hf854 #editorchat

[20:59:59] rajmanohar21: RT@JOHNABYRNETransformation is really hard and painful. That’s why a lot of players aren’t going to make it. #editorchat

[20:59:59] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: A new generation of entrepreneur/journalists will emerge to lead this [media] boom. #editorchat

[21:00:02] JOHNABYRNE: Some of that content will be produced by citizens. Some by professional journalists. #editorchat

[21:00:03] edwardboches: most successful newspaper web programs have been acutely local #editorchat, what is equiv for magazines

[21:00:11] ATLCheap: @JOHNABYRNE I agree. Experimenting with this now. Any tips for balancing the entrepreneurial side with the journalism? #editorchat

[21:00:16] ginakay: @MimiAndelman “local papers” often aren’t that local. Example: Cox is based in Atlanta, yet runs our local paper #editorchat

[21:00:15] shortformblog: @littlebrownpen Why not translate that to the next media playing field? #editorchat

[21:00:19] dfiske: RT @GinaLaGuardia: Rock on! RT @JOHNABYRNE: A new generation of entrepreneur/journalists will emerge to lead this [media] boom. #editorchat

[21:00:24] kristoforlawson: @JOHNABYRNE – i think there is a real problem with all the content being the same for both online and print. #editorchat

[21:00:31] mitchjoel: The model will not be about 1 company speaking to 10 million. It will be 10 million companies speaking to 10 million people. #editorchat

[21:00:31] JOHNABYRNE: Ultimately, I think local newspapers can only largely survive if they become local Googles. #editorchat

[21:00:33] anndouglas: RT @JOHNABYRNE: I think hyper-local sites have a good future and that should mean more community journalism. #editorchat

[21:00:34] PDXsays: @JOHNABYRNE this start up takes no responsibility for accuracy of content #editorchat

[21:00:36] mobienthusiast: @dodgemedlin a U-T person said water main story in local sec, needed to be front page early, not everyone got reverse 911 call #editorchat

[21:00:38] shirleybrady: @sfwriter Welcome to BW tech writer Rachael King! #editorchat

[21:00:41] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Some of that content will be produced by citizens. Some by professional journalists. #editorchat

[21:00:41] AlbertMaruggi: @JOHNABYRNE wait on the community journalism thing, where’s the $. Let’s just say $30K plus benefits, who is going to pay that? #editorchat

[21:00:48] rajmanohar21: RT@JOHNABYRNE3) Subscribers will generally not pay for content unless it’s original, unique value-added. #editorchat

[21:01:00] secretsushi: @JOHNABYRNE I have had the “hyper-local” convo with friends. I completely agree. Thats where newspapers started, no? #editorchat

[21:01:04] JanSimpson: RT @jtlongandco: Craigslist and Huffpo don’t pay their writers. How is that sustainable? #editorchat

[21:01:06] cArtPhotography: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Ultimately, I think local newspapers can only largely survive if they become local Googles. #editorchat

[21:01:06] BeckyDMBR: @milehighfool I agree. Boom! It’s everywhere. Next step is to hone and perfect. #editorchat

[21:01:10] JOHNABYRNE: They have to acquire enough information about the community & people that they can deliver leads to local businesses. #editorchat

[21:01:08] ginakay: RT @milehighfool Isn’t a media boom already underway? Twitter, blogs, Facebook. All media in some form. Just not media we know. #editorchat

[21:01:10] mitchjoel: It’s still going to be a lot of money, just not as much as newspapers made when they were the only game in town. #editorchat

[21:01:15] ValerieSimon: RT @milehighfool media boom already underway. Twitter, blogs, even Facebook. All media in some form. Just not the media we know. #editorchat

[21:01:20] maczter: RT @JOHNABYRNE: I think hyper-local sites have a good future and that should mean more community journalism. #editorchat

[21:01:23] howlvenice: i helped launch peopleonline.com way back when and they wouldn’t put the URL on the magazine’s cover for years #editorchat

[21:01:24] cperry248: Check out @johnabyrne and his breakdown on the media. Conversation now. #editorchat

[21:01:30] sfwriter: @shirleybrady Thanks! This is really interesting! #editorchat

[21:01:35] MikeLizun: @dmac1 besides twitter, any other social networks you are engaging in, that help form ideas? BX? #editorchat

[21:01:39] pocobw: Searched Twitter for #editorchat: http://tinyurl.com/ch5rts

[21:01:42] jimmcbee: I think ability to read/write/research credibly will eventually be found to be worth money again. Not sure how, though. #editorchat

[21:01:45] mobienthusiast: @dodgemedlin I am pushing this b/c it’s a missing service and also opportunity to build trust with readers #sandiego #editorchat

[21:01:48] PDXsays: RT @JOHNABYRNE Ultimately, I think local newspapers can only largely survive if they become local Googles. #editorchat

[21:01:51] dodgemedlin: @mobienthusiast Well, we could always do better. I really do think we’re learning, though. These conversations help. #editorchat

[21:02:04] littlebrownpen: @dfiske I agree. #editorchat

[21:02:06] clintonskakun: via @mitchjoelWhat is Craigslist and Huffington Post doing right? Why aren’t newspapers and magazines doing that? #editorchat.

[21:02:08] _katelee: Depressing – RT @JOHNABYRNE: Last year, more than 500 magazine titles in the U.S. went kaput. #editorchat

[21:02:09] JOHNABYRNE: @colorsign You’re talking ideology. We have no ideology at BW. #editorchat

[21:02:10] kristoforlawson: @knitnrun – survivors could boost sales through quality investigative journalism, and let online do the up-to-the-minute news #editorchat

[21:02:24] milehighfool: Journalists and community collaborating: Trick is to the find the line, and not abrogate responsibility. #editorchat

[21:02:26] ATLCheap: RT @JOHNABYRNE: I think hyper-local sites have a good future and that should mean more community journalism. #editorchat #citiesotc

[21:02:27] edwardboches: #editorchat you will have to go to where the audience is and not expect them to come to you

[21:02:29] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: @colorsign You’re talking ideology. We have no ideology at BW. #editorchat

[21:02:41] AlbertMaruggi: @JOHNABYRNE leads for businesses,that’s why I wonder why I’m in the chamber of commerce :>) but you are right about that model #editorchat

[21:02:40] dodgemedlin: @mobienthusiast Thanks! I’ll pass this along to our online folks. #editorchat

[21:02:41] JDEbberly: RT @milehighfool: Journalists and community collaborating: Trick is to the find the line, and not abrogate responsibility. #editorchat

[21:02:44] JOHNABYRNE: @AlbertMaruggi The salaries will be lower, except for the entrepreneurs who start these sites. #editorchat

[21:02:46] Willowbottom: @milehighfool The problem w/media we don’t know seemsthat it’s hard for it to earn street cred – or is that just my perception? #editorchat

[21:02:52] JDEbberly: RT @edwardboches: #editorchat you will have to go to where the audience is and not expect them to come to you

[21:02:54] shirleybrady: @pocobw & welcome to BW.com managing channel editor Patricia O’Connell! #editorchat

[21:02:54] secretsushi: Newspapers need to concentrate on the message and not the medium. The “news” and not the “paper”. #editorchat

[21:02:56] edwardboches: #editorchat what twitter, facebook, et al are doing is owning the audience, possible vehicle for connection and readers

[21:03:06] DavisFreeberg: @mariaschneider Most social media is only worth quoting if you can’t verify the source. #editorchat

[21:03:08] etanowitz: Hello, Etan Horowitz, tech writer/blogger at Orlando Sentinel here. what’s the topic/question of the moment? #editorchat

[21:03:10] mobienthusiast: @dodgemedlin also it wasn’t just you, @nbcsandiego had it on a newscast but didn’t tweet it & not on their home page #sandiego #editorchat

[21:03:12] bmforbes: u can tell w HuffPo! RT @JanSimpson: RT @jtlongandco: Craigslist and Huffpo don’t pay their writers. How is that sustainable? #editorchat

[21:03:14] JDEbberly: RT @secretsushi: Newspapers need to concentrate on the message and not the medium. The “news” and not the “paper”. #editorchat

[21:03:18] jomc: print retweeters!!! (good points here) RT @JOHNABYRNE: How many Bernie Madoff pleads guilty stories can anyone read. #editorchat

[21:03:21] BeckyDMBR: @JOHNABYRNE Not sure about “hyper-local online sites.” Jury’s out for me. But local print papers? I believe they will thrive. #editorchat

[21:03:35] shortformblog: @Johnabyrne I think you’re right about hyperlocal. News should be like Yelp or UrbanSpoon. It should be centralized – on you. #editorchat

[21:03:34] JOHNABYRNE: In every community, taxpayers want to know how their money is being spent. #editorchat

[21:03:36] jimmcbee: rt @JOHNABYRNE The salaries will be lower, except for the entrepreneurs who start these (new media) sites. #editorchat

[21:03:48] edwardboches: #editorchat perhaps there is a way to become the objective reliable content arm of major social network platforms

[21:03:49] JOHNABYRNE: Parents want to know how their children are being educated. #editorchat

[21:03:53] knitnrun: RT @JOHNABYRNE (sic) comm papers must acquire enough info about commty & pple that they deliver leads to local biz / UseTwitter! #editorchat

[21:03:53] kristoforlawson: my solution to newspapers is to focus on investigative journalism again, and let online news do the day to day stuff. #editorchat

[21:04:01] jennipps: RT @milehighfool Journalists and community collaborating: Trick is to the find the line, and not abrogate responsibility. #editorchat

[21:04:10] ginakay: If goal is to deliver leads to local biz via local print media, some of that happens now, plus an online presence (Bizjournals) #editorchat

[21:04:12] yoyomama_van: Interesting article on free content & services from the Economist. Not totally on point, but still relevant: http://bit.ly/m9Gw #editorchat

[21:04:26] LydiaBreakfast: May I remind everyone this is a chat to determine how writers and editors can move with the changing times – not a gripe session #editorchat

[21:04:29] JOHNABYRNE: And then there are local sports–high school, college, Little League, soccer, etc. #editorchat

[21:04:31] milehighfool: @Willowbottom No, that’s fair and to @JOHNABYRNE‘s point: engaging, original content wins. Source is secondary. #editorchat

[21:04:37] dodgemedlin: @jimmcbee Aha! So *that’s* why you started smartnewsnc.com. 🙂 #editorchat

[21:04:45] MimiAndelman: I would like highly targeted local news, down to the neighborhood, even — with advertising that pertains. Good for all. #editorchat

[21:04:45] edwardboches: #editorchat what bothers me about the social free for all is lack of objectivity, discipline reporting, etc,

[21:04:48] shirleybrady: @edwardboches Great idea, Edward. #editorchat

[21:04:51] shortformblog: @JOHNABYRNE Do you think they care about chicken dinners, T-ball games and business functions too? 😀 Just kidding. You’re right #editorchat

[21:04:51] jenandtheart: Why is no one addressing the aesthetic and cultural value of paper and instead trying to reinvent what we put in ink and paper? #editorchat

[21:04:53] AlbertMaruggi: @kristoforlawson you have a point there. I see plenty of opportunity for corruption without independent press #editorchat

[21:04:54] littlebrownpen: RT: @kristoforlawson my solution to is to focus on investigative journalism again, and let online news do the day to day #editorchat

[21:05:06] RBLevin: @milehighfool Define boom? Users? Boom. Revenue? Bust. #editorchat

[21:05:16] Dark_Faust: Just joining. Is there a list of questions for tonight’s tweet? #editorchat

[21:05:26] merylkevans: @apowerpoint I have two tweetgrid tabs open — one for #editorchat and one for #b2bmktgchat. http://www.hashtags.org/ explains all # #b2bmktgchat

[21:05:26] ginakay: I missed Scrubs because of #editorchat. heh.

[21:05:35] jeffkart: @JOHNABYRNE thats a niche that newspapers can fill. all local. no wire. #editorchat

[21:05:35] kristoforlawson: you can’t expect to sell papers if the content online is pretty much the same as in the paper format. #editorchat

[21:05:37] edwardboches: #editorchat writers and editors still need to show readers they have value in quality that can’t be found from amateurs

[21:05:44] JOHNABYRNE: HuffPo’s plan is a smart one. If the local newspaper doesn’t do it, they will. But local entrepreneurs will have the advantage. #editorchat

[21:05:49] JDEbberly: RT: @kristoforlawson my solution to is to focus on investigative journalism again, and let online news do the day to day #editorchat

[21:06:00] etanowitz: anyone can solicit user generated content, but media/journalists will stand out by being the best at filtering and compiling #editorchat

[21:06:04] mobienthusiast: @LydiaBreakfast I hope you don’t mean me – I am offering insight for improved social media/journalist communication #editorchat

[21:06:10] PDXsays: Is the day of the smart local journalist who aspires to rise over? #editorchat

[21:06:11] TMFZahrim: RT @jenandtheart: Why is no one addressing aesthetic and cultural value of paper, instead trying to reinvent it? #editorchat

[21:06:16] GinaLaGuardia: @edwardboches They are owning *&* employing/leveraging audience’s contributions. Good editors can frame that.. that’s the future #editorchat

[21:06:23] LydiaBreakfast: @Dark_Faust It’s an open discussion. Not following the format tonight #editorchat

[21:06:22] amandachapel: @JOHNABYRNE “The salaries will be lower, except for the entrepreneurs who start these sites. #editorchat” Nonsense.

[21:06:23] konadad: Agreed. RT @edwardboches: #editorchat what bothers me about the social free for all is lack of objectivity, discipline reporting, etc,

[21:06:28] jtlongandco: Community=more than geography. Florida country club members want a different story about Madoff than hedge fund managers,nonprof #editorchat

[21:06:36] knitnrun: @JOHNABYRNE As @kristoforlawson said and my f-i-law says is missing fr Web content: it’s the investigative piece. Thoughts? #editorchat

[21:06:39] milehighfool: @JOHNABYRNE Agreed, though I recently wrote about a company trying to do local news via algorithm. Scary. #editorchat

[21:06:40] Dark_Faust: @LydiaBreakfast Fewer pubs and a broken bus model means less full-time jobs. Lots of freelancing work, tho. #editorchat

[21:06:40] LydiaBreakfast: @mobienthusiast No not you 🙂 #editorchat

[21:06:47] JDEbberly: RT @LydiaBreakfast: @Dark_Faust It’s an open discussion. Not following the format tonight #editorchat

[21:06:52] jimmcbee: @dodgemedlin I have hopes for Ernie’s http://shortformblog.com too 😉 (and no monetary interest, either) It’s time to experiment #editorchat

[21:06:53] RBLevin: @JOHNABYRNE And they don’t read or click on online ads. #editorchat

[21:06:53] motownmutt: @cynawriter you can try following the #editorchat discussion with tweetgrid: http://is.gd/oZh1

[21:06:54] dmac1: @MikeLizun BX is good tool. But I find best place to find readers w/ good ideas are comment threads on BW stories & blogs #editorchat

[21:06:55] fromartz: @JOHNABYRNE And will BW writers flock to do hyper-local news? #editorchat

[21:07:06] TMFZahrim: For print to survive, it indeed needs to embrace its “print-ness” #editorchat

[21:07:06] edwardboches: #editorchat agree wtih investigative that will be sorely missed of papers or serious magazines diminish

[21:07:08] secretsushi: TRaditional media’s strength is in their ability to assimilate information and foster resources. #editorchat

[21:07:20] leanneclc: What do you guys think of the way NPR has been able to get money from audience? Not same as for profit…but it works #editorchat

[21:07:22] kristoforlawson: @AlbertMaruggi – absolutely. Papers used to be about exposing corruption, and keeping people honest. #editorchat

[21:07:28] milehighfool: @RBLevin Hey Rich. Not everyone is going bust. Is Portfolio? BusinessWeek? The Fool? Nope. #editorchat

[21:07:29] JDEbberly: WOW, TREMENDOUS insights by @JOHNABYRNE and others!! 🙂 #editorchat

[21:07:33] womenkind: I figure the future belongs to long-form print content (The New Yorker) and headlines which you can get in 1000 places for free. #editorchat

[21:07:37] dodgemedlin: @jimmcbee Absolutely. shortformblog.com has a ton of potential. #editorchat

[21:07:40] JOHNABYRNE: @amandachapel I know a highly experienced journalist who now works for a monthly $500 draw and is paid by page views. #editorchat

[21:07:42] TMFZahrim: sure have blogs and a FB page, but do things in print you can’t do online #editorchat

[21:07:46] Krochmal: You should be reading @JOHNABYRNE ‘s tweetstream right now. Seriously. #editorchat

[21:08:04] Dark_Faust: @edwardboches Really, the audience is owning the audience. The readers are in control. That’s a mixed blessing. #editorchat

[21:08:04] jtlongandco: @milehighfool News by algorithm = very scary #editorchat

[21:08:05] martindave: RT @JOHNABYRNE 2) Online advert cannot offset print decline or save print product. 2 much online inventory from 2 many rivals. #editorchat

[21:08:16] MikeLizun: @dmac1 Thanks. #editorchat

[21:08:31] kristoforlawson: @AlbertMaruggi – and getting to the heart of a story. Making sure its told properly. Quality journalism must return! #editorchat

[21:08:32] kathyoreilly: @dmac1 have u asked Q’s on LinkedIn where A’s generate story ideas/content? #editorchat

[21:08:37] JOHNABYRNE: BW is not about hyper-local. We need to provide original, useful analysis that helps people get ahead in biz. #editorchat

[21:08:46] TMFZahrim: portable, bendable, vivid and esily readable… scratch n sniff 😛 paper can do so much my computer can’t #editorchat

[21:08:48] edwardboches: @leanneclc #editorchat npr is proof people will pay for good content. if new yorker went, every reader would pay for the online version

[21:08:51] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE 2) Online advert cannot offset print decline or save print product. 2 much online inventory from 2 many rivals. #editorchat

[21:08:54] shortformblog: @jimmcbee @dodgemedlin You schmucks are too kind. 😀 #editorchat

[21:09:02] dodgemedlin: OK, duty calls. I’ll catch up on reading this later. @mobienthusiast, thanks for the comments about emergency coverage. #editorchat

[21:09:04] milehighfool: @jtlongandco The idea is to pull from Twitter, FB, blogs and other public postings and then triangulate based on your GPS. #editorchat

[21:09:06] AlbrightDC: @TMFZahrim “things in print you can’t do online”… Like what? #editorchat

[21:09:13] ttlFantastic: RT @JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: A new generation of entrepreneur/journalists will emerge to lead this [media] boom. #editorchat

[21:09:14] RBLevin: @milehighfool What I mean is, lots of readers, very little if any revenue per reader. #editorchat

[21:09:19] JOHNABYRNE: We used to live in a nice little world with finite competition: WSJ, Fortune & Forbes. #editorchat

[21:09:22] mitchjoel: HuffPo is an opp for journos to grow audience and brand. Use that audience to monetize – book deals, Blogs, other initiatives. #editorchat.

[21:09:28] martindave: RT @JOHNABYRNE 3) Subscribers will generally not pay for content unless it’s original, unique value-added. #editorchat [spot on, kudos, JAB]

[21:09:32] PDXsays: I just felt our children’s IQ’s drop by at least 10 points, with the future of journalism #editorchat

[21:09:36] RBLevin: @amandachapel HoffPost gets much of its content for free. I’d call that “lower.” #editorchat

[21:09:36] JDEbberly: @jtlongandco The idea is to pull from Twitter, FB, blogs and other public postings and then triangulate based on your GPS. #editorchat

[21:09:46] milehighfool: @JOHNABYRNE Agreed. The future is news analysis. I’m not sure there’s such a thing as straight news anymore. #editorchat

[21:09:53] eclisham: There are many other opportunities for online revenue besides ads: text/email, video, lead gen, paid local search, etc. 1/2 #editorchat

[21:09:57] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE 3) Subscribers will generally not pay for content unless it’s original, unique value-added #editorchat

[21:09:57] TMFZahrim: cf Watchmen, Moore strives to do in comics what only comics can do. Yep the film failed. #editorchat

[21:10:00] AlbrightDC: I’d rather have all my news presented on screen- scrollable, searchable, etc- than deal with messy newsprint. #editorchat

[21:10:07] edwardboches: #editorchat agree with @womenkind people will pay for high quality long content, at least let’s hope so or it’s fox world

[21:10:05] hriefs: @JOHNABYRNE The Tribune is now moving fast with the hyper-local model, introducing neighborhood editions in 30+ suburbs #editorchat

[21:10:13] JOHNABYRNE: Today, we compete against Yahoo Finance, MSN Money, AOL Money & Finance, CNBC.com, Reuters.com, Bloomberg.com. #editorchat

[21:10:15] JDEbberly: RT @milehighfool: @JOHNABYRNE Agreed. The future is news analysis. I’m not sure there’s such a thing as straight news anymore. #editorchat

[21:10:23] LydiaBreakfast: @RBLevin Which is the problem. How does anyone make a living wage tied to page views? #editorchat

[21:10:23] Dark_Faust: @martindave Any even then, they will pay very little. That’s the problem. #editorchat

[21:10:25] eclisham: BUT — will newspaper sales departments ramp up to be able to sell these new formats? 2/2 #editorchat

[21:10:25] collazoprojects: Bummed I’ve missed #editorchat due to computer problems.

[21:10:41] AlbrightDC: I think the “print vs. online” debate is largely generational. Today’s reporters post online. Period. #editorchat

[21:10:45] karenauby: @TMFZahrim I agree. I love reading the actual paper with a cup of coffee….a morning ritual #editorchat

[21:10:47] milehighfool: @RBLevin Agreed. And that *is* a huge issue. Even if brain engagement is up, wallet engagement, overall, is down. #editorchat

[21:10:48] JOHNABYRNE: The biz sections of the HuffPo, Salon, The Atlantic, biz & economic blogs, AmericanExpress Open, etc. #editorchat

[21:10:52] jenandtheart: I don’t think we lack accessibility to quality journalism. I think we lack creative models of employment. #editorchat

[21:10:54] secretsushi: – @JOHNABYRNE distribution is what made 1 paper better than another. Bigger reach. Now that is not a factor due to the web. #editorchat

[21:11:01] jennipps: @AlbrightDC My prob is the readability of the newsprint rather than the messiness. #editorchat

[21:11:09] shortformblog: @johnabyrne That’s not true. You compete against everyone. Those are just the big players. #editorchat

[21:11:09] bob_bobala: RT @milehighfool “The future is news analysis.” Yeah, that’s the value add that people will pay for. #editorchat

[21:11:12] jtlongandco: @sacramentopress I think you would enjoy this discussion #editorchat

[21:11:12] knitnrun: @leanneclc Good call on NPR money making. Have seen others suggest newspapers will need to go the nonprofit route. #editorchat

[21:11:14] JDEbberly: @collazoprojects You can read the transcript on the editorchat home page 🙂 #editorchat

[21:11:16] brucebski: #editorchat What ever you do, it must hold the attention of your audience, like a bucket holds water. It’s a competition 4 holding attention

[21:11:23] edwardboches: #editorchat here’s an idea: invent a new hardware technology that sends out news sources. buy once and sub to content sources

[21:11:22] PDXsays: @LydiaBreakfast you don’t … I am following some stuff on twitter – and god forgive me – don’t have the citations at hand #editorchat

[21:11:24] BeckyDMBR: @JOHNABYRNE Hmm. HuffPo is “smart” for HuffPo. For journalists or those who want journalism? Not so much. #editorchat

[21:11:29] jimmcbee: @PDXsays Critical thinking will be even more valuable with deluge of unreliable news/info. Facts and truth are slippery buggers. #editorchat

[21:11:34] Dark_Faust: @RBLevin yes. that’s what we’re finding. What is working for is a sponsorship model where the big companies pay. #editorchat

[21:11:35] JOHNABYRNE: And, of course, WSJ, Fortune and Forbes online. Also The Economist, The Financial Times, the biz section of the NYT, etc. #editorchat

[21:11:48] jenandtheart: #AlbrightDC Disagree. I’m 23 and I would still pay for NYTimes if they would give me something better in print (or online) #editorchat

[21:11:56] edwardboches: #editorchat do not start with what you do, start with what your reader wants and work backwards

[21:11:58] womenkind: @edwardboches People who value great content will pay for it. But not many people do. New Yorker has relatively low circ. #editorchat

[21:11:57] shortformblog: @johnabyrne Any blogger or guy with a twitter feed who has an opinion on business is your competitor. #editorchat

[21:11:59] dmac1: Local papers can use tech to give community the power and responsibility to do stories they want, ie Spot.Us http://bit.ly/qbrF1 #editorchat

[21:12:11] TMFZahrim: @JOHNABYRNE Not the Fool? 🙂 #editorchat

[21:12:14] JOHNABYRNE: It’s a very different competitive world. #editorchat

[21:12:19] rickywhy: @mobienthusiast @dodgemedlin this was posted on SignOn home page five hours before the city notified people http://bit.ly/gZio #editorchat

[21:12:20] AlbrightDC: @jennipps Readability- good point. Devices like the Kindle will adjust the print size for you. #editorchat

[21:12:20] PDXsays: @jenandtheart you’re onto something there, I believe… #editorchat

[21:12:30] kristoforlawson: @womenkind – I agree. Print needs to be long in-depth investigative journalism. Online needs to be the day-to-day headlines. #editorchat

[21:12:31] StevePR104: @jimmcbee Irony: if fewer can make money delivering news because of the Net, we become less, not more, informed because of it. #editorchat

[21:12:44] edwardboches: #editorchat steal chapter from amazon kindle, not their core strength, but inspired by consumer/reader desire

[21:12:47] mobienthusiast: @shirleybrady Please send me a transcript link too #editorchat

[21:12:56] knitnrun: RT @edwardboches #editorchat do not start with what you do, start with what your reader wants and work backwards

[21:13:00] DougH: @AlbertMaruggi @mitchjoel‘s right. Unions support jobs that would be eliminated/evolve for distribution to evolve. Won;t go easy #editorchat

[21:13:07] IPStrategist: @JOHNABYRNE Interesting. Stopped NYT in ATL b/c HuffPo my first stop in am. Don’t miss local paper b/c ATL paper stunk 4 years. #editorchat

[21:13:09] JOHNABYRNE: @shortformblog I pretty much agree with you. Our brand still stands for something but the competition is amazing now. #editorchat

[21:13:16] AlbrightDC: @jenandtheart Oh I would pay for online access, if it was from a good source. #editorchat

[21:13:18] BaileyMcC: @Dark_Faust do you worry about objectivity with the sponsorhip model? #editorchat

[21:13:20] LydiaBreakfast: Speaking of hyperlocal vs. wider focus, will they be able to coexist peacefully and profitably in the future? #editorchat

[21:13:27] Dark_Faust: @jimmcbee With media in collapse, critical thinkers will not linker long in journalism. They will migrate behind corp walls. #editorchat

[21:13:34] rickywhy: It was updated 2 hours later, and 5 hours later again… Admittedly, blog items not prominent on page… But available on rss #editorchat

[21:13:37] paradisekitten: Wheww Editor chat is hot! Lots of great insight and interesting views in sizzling tweet-feast. #editorchat

[21:13:39] littlebrownpen: @JOHNABYRNE Also opinion blogs like calculated risk, mish, roubini, deninger, etc. Competition is endless. #editorchat

[21:13:54] RBLevin: I also think that publishers need to look at things like webinars. Advertisers want the lists and leads. #editorchat

[21:13:56] marciamarcia: @PDXsays Children adapt & find new ways to excel. I hear their IQs going up 10pts. Well, at least those who engage. #editorchat

[21:14:05] milehighfool: @LydiaBreakfast Hyper-local strikes me as a false panacea. I don’t need to know what’s going on the block over. #editorchat

[21:14:08] JDEbberly: @paradisekitten You got that right! #editorchat

[21:14:20] jenandtheart: @AlbrightDC So would I. But it would have to have greater depth and breadth than just an online copy of paper #editorchat

[21:14:23] dmac1: @kathyoreilly I haven’t, prob because it’s a more private site. But I know LinkedIn added public features, so I should revisit #editorchat

[21:14:31] MikeLizun: @JOHNBYRNE what about mobile? Thoughts on that news delivery method and ad rev generating model? #editorchat

[21:14:42] RBLevin: What if an online pub were “ad free” sponsored by a vendor? Vendor gets branding, opt-in mailing list, other stuff. #editorchat

[21:14:43] ATLCheap: @hriefs The AJC just cut most of its hyper-local print sections, even though metro #Atlanta needs them due to its size. #editorchat

[21:14:45] edwardboches: #editorchat hyperlocal in the magazine business isn’t geographical, it’s subject/interest

[21:14:51] winequester: @JOHNABYRNE Overwhelming our Twitter feeds and pushing our friends and biz associates off by carpet bombing is arrogant. #editorchat

[21:14:51] mobienthusiast: @rickywhy I didn’t see it when I went to signon home page. My point is it needed to be front and center, not on interior page #editorchat

[21:14:53] MimiAndelman: But they may pay if it is: RT @JOHNABYRNE Subscribers will generally not pay fpr content unless it’s original…value-added #editorchat

[21:14:53] JOHNABYRNE: @BaileyMcC Not really. Under sponsorship, you may get more coverage of this or that. But it shouldn’t be influenced by a sponsor #editorchat

[21:14:56] secretsushi: @StevePR104 distribution is rly the primary issue. Cut that cost out of the equation. Distribute locally where ur strength is. #editorchat

[21:15:01] jennipps: @milehighfool That, to me, seems hyper-hyper. *s* Local paper has outlying communities & is — IMO — hyperlocal that way. #editorchat

[21:15:14] tweditor: @milehighfool @LydiaBreakfast I agree with @milehighfool. The HOA newsletter is boring. #editorchat

[21:15:17] jenandtheart: @PDXsays The problems that I see is that we A. Reinvent the wheel everytime it gets a flat & #editorchat

[21:15:30] Dark_Faust: @BaileyMcC For us – technology coverage – it’s easier to avoid that bullet. We cover the pain points of engineers. #editorchat

[21:15:35] edwardboches: #editorchat journalists need some real marketing help: every reader relationship to content is different

[21:15:45] JOHNABYRNE: @RBLevin Totally agree. Media brands need to become direct marketers and also create new products that people will pay for. #editorchat

[21:15:47] jimmcbee: @Dark_Faust one might say most already are, given size of media chains. Will corps hire journos to interpret the day’s events? #editorchat

[21:15:57] edwardboches: #editorchat some readers want entertainment, some information, some advice, some the chance to interact

[21:15:56] steveluis: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Last year, more than 500 magazine titles in the U.S. went kaput. #editorchat

[21:15:56] TWATTERPUBLIC: tweditor: @milehighfool @LydiaBreakfast I agree with @milehighfool. The HOA newsletter is boring. #editorchat

[21:15:59] mobienthusiast: @rickywhy also, nobody from U-T tweeted it w/link to story = missed opportunity. Reverse 911 call said it happened Sun p.m. #editorchat

[21:16:09] jenandtheart: @PDXsays and B. The people who are ultimately running these establishments have NO IDEA what the internet is really about. #editorchat

[21:16:11] edwardboches: #editorchat need to think in terms of reader and then work backwards to add value that people will pay for

[21:16:14] fixin2: @MikeLizun I think this would work with media outlets with enough assets to deliver content, ads to devices #editorchat

[21:16:16] Dark_Faust: @BaileyMcC Much more fact based. But, yes, the EiC always has to be aware of the paying guest. 🙂 #editorchat

[21:16:20] KBordessa: RT @ATLCheap @JOHNABYRNE I think hyper-local sites have a good future and that should mean more community journalism. #editorchat #citiesotc

[21:16:24] JDEbberly: Editorchat is getting as fast-paced as journchat! WOWSERS!! #editorchat

[21:16:22] jeremymeyers: #editorchat The newspaper/advertiser relationship will benefit from the hyper-local targeting ability impossible with print but easy for web

[21:16:28] LydiaBreakfast: Maybe it takes a hyper-local village to reinvent the bigger news model? #editorchat

[21:16:38] PDXsays: @marciamarcia man.. last I read, kid’s performance in schools slumped..public schools, yes? AND as I recall, much of our thinkin #editorchat

[21:16:50] kristoforlawson: If print journalism can be different from online it has a big market. If it continues to be the same content then its in trouble #editorchat

[21:17:02] anndouglas: @milehighfool What I like about hyper-local is potential to make real change @ local level by knowing beat/issues. #editorchat

[21:17:07] dmac1: @colorsign More difficult to get a scoop than ever, especially in tech and biz news where bloggers now break good chunk of news #editorchat

[21:17:17] PDXsays: thinking process training comes from education using journalism #editorchat

[21:17:19] AlbrightDC: @kristoforlawson Why wouldn’t it be the same content? #editorchat

[21:17:24] fromartz: @JOHNABYRNE and companies are starting their own media channels and hiring journalists #editorchat

[21:17:24] MimiAndelman: Makes case for Tweeting new content. RT @rickywhy: … Admittedly, blog items not prominent on page… But available on rss #editorchat

[21:17:36] BaileyMcC: RT @edwardboches: #editorchat need to think in terms of reader and then work backwards to add value that people will pay for

[21:17:39] edwardboches: #editorchat @lydiabreakfast, there are lessons in every revolution, USA today, CNN, proliferation of special interest magazines

[21:17:46] milehighfool: @JOHNABYRNE Interesting idea. How do you market and report and maintain credibility? #editorchat

[21:17:49] mobienthusiast: @RickyWhy Not trying to pick on UT; point is I drank water Sun p.m., coincidentally was sick, wanted info on front page #editorchat

[21:17:54] jenandtheart: @PDXsays At the cost of ageism: I don’t remember a time before the Internet. I have been on the Internet since I have memories. #editorchat

[21:18:06] MikeLizun: correction @JOHNABYRNE what about mobile? Thoughts on that news delivery method and ad rev generating model? #editorchat

[21:18:20] ginavon: I am liking the @JOHNABYRNE #editorchat …reading along. thx!

[21:18:25] soultravelers3: RT @JOHNABYRNE I know a highly experienced journalist who now works for a monthly $500 draw and is paid by page views. #editorchat

[21:18:22] snakewicked: Following interesting #editorchat discussion with @JOHNABYRNE, ed in chief at Business Week.

[21:18:24] Dark_Faust: @jimmcbee In my world – technology trade – journs are being use to cover editorial issues for corps. both print and online. #editorchat

[21:18:26] jenandtheart: @AlbrightDC @kristoforlawson Because do you put your right shoe on your left foot and your left shoe on your right? #editorchat

[21:18:27] DavisFreeberg: Too often journalists play safe by only writing pros/con re: argument instead of giving the opin & analysis that readers crave #editorchat

[21:18:30] littlebrownpen: A “flight to quality” is in effect. People are sick of spin, and hungry for journalism. #editorchat

[21:18:34] kristoforlawson: print needs to cover stories which are not yesterdays news. Online has a role to play in delivering news immediately #editorchat

[21:18:36] PDXsays: .. and as a generation, your comprehensive abilities are…? #editorchat

[21:18:40] mobienthusiast: @RickyWhy So, here’s request: if it’s important, have at least a headline on front page – same thing happened w/ fires last year #editorchat

[21:18:40] womenkind: @kristoforlawson Exactly. Why would anyone pay for People Mag when you can get the dirt online & in real time? #editorchat

[21:18:44] MimiAndelman: LOVE IT! RT @milehighfool What I like about hyper-local is potential to make real change @ local level by knowing beat/issues. #editorchat

[21:19:02] Dark_Faust: @jimmcbee some investigative reporting, but those reports never see the public “light of day” – as you hint. #editorchat

[21:19:07] AlbrightDC: “Brand” is important to print papers transitioning to online. Reputation=key #editorchat

[21:19:21] MaryKnudson: @JOHNABYRNE How do u keep online t news judgment of editors, reporters that shows up in newspapers by where story is played? #editorchat

[21:19:24] milehighfool: RT @littlebrownpen A “flight to quality” is in effect. People are sick of spin, and hungry for journalism. #editorchat

[21:19:26] jimmcbee: @milehighfool great q … credibility has really sunk anyway #editorchat

[21:19:27] JOHNABYRNE: @MikeLizun Mobile is key. I can foresee a day when most people will get their news via mobile device and not TV. Not far away. #editorchat

[21:19:29] JDEbberly: RT @AlbrightDC: “Brand” is important to print papers transitioning to online. Reputation=key #editorchat

[21:19:33] edwardboches: @MikeLizun #editorchat mobile will be huge, but with current technology more about shorter format and real time, less about long content

[21:19:37] PDXsays: @MimiAndelman caution harking to fifedoms #editorchat

[21:19:47] kristoforlawson: @AlbrightDC – because why would you pick up a paper if exactly the same story is free online? It needs to be different #editorchat

[21:19:49] jennipps: RT @AlbrightDC “Brand” is important to print papers transitioning to online. Reputation=key #editorchat

[21:19:51] JOHNABYRNE: So figuring out how to use smart phones in an interactive way is an important part of the future. #editorchat

[21:19:54] littlebrownpen: @womenkind I’ve wondered about People and their counterparts for quite awhile. #editorchat

[21:19:59] jimmcbee: @Dark_Faust fascinating. I’ve been wondering about that lately, but I’m out of that loop. #editorchat

[21:20:01] BeckyDMBR: @milehighfool 1) tell the truth 2) tell it consistently #editorchat

[21:20:07] anndouglas: @littlebrownpen So well put! We’ve had it up to hear with the double-speak. We want fact-saturated journalism. #editorchat

[21:20:16] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: So figuring out how to use smart phones in an interactive way is an important part of the future. #editorchat

[21:20:14] enki09: @JanSimpson #editorchat writers do it for the exposure…websites keep the advertising money… I write on blogcritics

[21:20:25] marciamarcia: @edwardboches I think in terms of reader *learning* then work backwards to look at what of that #lrn they’ll pay for. #editorchat

[21:20:30] shirleybrady: @womenkind Hi Kristi! That’s why Time Inc. experimenting with mags on demand: https://www.timecmg.com/mine #editorchat

[21:20:36] knitnrun: @womenkind @kristoforlawson I think some will always be willing to pay for others to sift through the noise for them. #editorchat Lazy-easy

[21:20:47] JOHNABYRNE: @MaryKnudson That’s the role of an editor. #editorchat

[21:20:47] MightyCasey: @anndouglas Fact-saturated journalism – now THAT’S an offer! #editorchat

[21:20:52] edwardboches: @littlebrownpen #editorchat flight to quality from those who get it yes, maybe not the masses who seek news that reinforces their opinion

[21:20:54] LydiaBreakfast: Getting news on a smartphone is going to require a whole other style of reporting and writing #editorchat

[21:20:55] jenandtheart: @PDXsays It’s not a generational thing. There are 50 y.o.s who ‘get it,’ but what’s working about translating paper into online? #editorchat

[21:20:56] milehighfool: @dmac1 Breaking news is a loser’s game now, isn’t it? In tech, especially. (My beat as well.) #editorchat

[21:21:01] Dark_Faust: @kristoforlawson Very true. So print needs to be different. For my industry, that means longer deeper pieces – I hope. #editorchat

[21:21:08] secretsushi: Content cn now stand on it’s own as individual articles instead of a collective of work. How can segmenting content b leveraged? #editorchat

[21:21:11] mobienthusiast: Retweet @JOHNABYRNE: So figuring out how to use smart phones in an interactive way is an important part of the future. #editorchat #mobi

[21:21:09] PDXsays: @littlebrownpen I think you are right on the money there #editorchat

[21:21:10] JDEbberly: RT @LydiaBreakfast: Getting news on a smartphone is going to require a whole other style of reporting and writing #editorchat

[21:21:30] PDXsays: @jenandtheart not a place for this debate…sry all #editorchat

[21:21:38] George_Williams: @mitchjoel #editorchat There are still some pieces completely missing from this discussion. Either that, or I haven’t seen them.

[21:21:46] AnotherBros: RT @edwardboches agree with John #editorchat, I was Creative Director for MPA for years, and also head an ad agency, print adv is over

[21:21:49] littlebrownpen: @edwardboches Very true. There is a lot of “confirming one’s own bias” #editorchat

[21:21:56] anndouglas: @milehighfool We now need a similar equity migration: for dollars to follow the migration of quality content. #editorchat

[21:21:56] BeckyDMBR: @dmac1 The point now, I believe, is not the “scoop.” It’s defining and explaining the news. #editorchat

[21:22:00] mitchjoel: I’d like to know people’s thoughts on aggregation and, as @jeffjarvis says, “do what you do best and link out to the rest” #editorchat.

[21:21:59] JOHNABYRNE: @dkemper They will thrive because publishers will have money to pay them. Google part is connecting customers with merchants. #editorchat

[21:22:02] milehighfool: @LydiaBreakfast Twitter reporting? Twitporting? #editorchat

[21:22:04] fixin2: RT @LydiaBreakfast: Getting news on a smartphone is going to require a whole other style of reporting and writing #editorchat // true that!

[21:22:05] MightyCasey: @JDEbberly that’s the problem I have – I just can’t deal on my B’berry if it’s more than a breaking-news one-line headline #editorchat

[21:22:11] eclisham: Check out @stevebuttry to see an org that has completely decoupled information from packaging, whether print, web, cell, etc. #editorchat.

[21:22:16] motownmutt: RT @littlebrownpen A “flight to quality” is in effect. People are sick of spin, and hungry for journalism. (via #editorchat)

[21:22:21] PDXsays: @George_Williams yes, I agree.. and I was here for most of it #editorchat

[21:22:24] Dark_Faust: @jimmcbee It’s hard for good journs to resist corp pull. Pay is better, so are benefits. But it’s not the same as being independ #editorchat

[21:22:30] jennipps: @milehighfool Or some would call it “tworting.” #editorchat

[21:22:37] womenkind: Mass is over. Print has to re-gauge its expectations and re-engage a smaller audience. Advertisers will pay for quality readers. #editorchat

[21:22:47] JOHNABYRNE: @jeffjarvis True but there are a lot of other ideas that we’d be better at. #editorchat

[21:22:48] edwardboches: #editorchat i know some very very good journalists from balt sun who left sun to go into health care or other writing opps

[21:22:48] JDEbberly: @MightyCasey I know what you mean, same with my iPhone. #editorchat

[21:22:57] RBLevin: @soultravelers3 Ditto. I know several. Pay for bloggers stinks, in general. Far from $1/word, often free if no traffic. #editorchat

[21:23:05] mobienthusiast: @LydiaBreakfast BW is already doing that with http://businessweek.mobi, so are some other newsmags and local papers #editorchat #mobi

[21:23:22] CRBJ: @LydiaBreakfast Lots of our readers get our daily news product via smartphone. We say we make blackberries buzz. #editorchat (lurking)

[21:23:44] edwardboches: #editorchat @womenkind gets it. rethink focus, rethink content, rethink adding value,

[21:23:46] jimmcbee: @Dark_Faust public interest journalism may become a hobby. Have had that thought in my mind for awhile. #editorchat

[21:23:49] fixin2: RT @jennipps: @milehighfool Or some would call it “tworting.” // or retworting. 🙂 #editorchat

[21:23:57] kristoforlawson: @pocobw – very true. Thats why papers need to do what their good at. In-depth journalism. They can’t be the latest news anymore. #editorchat

[21:24:10] womenkind: @motownmutt Yeah, we could have used some journalism during WMD spin. Woodward? Bernstein? #editorchat

[21:24:17] BarbaraHoward: RT: @motownmutt RT @littlebrownpen A “flight to quality” is in effect. People are sick of spin, and hungry for journalism. (via #editorchat)

[21:24:21] RBLevin: The old new thing. These chats are no diff than IRC circa 1988. #editorchat

[21:24:25] jennipps: RT @edwardboches #editorchat @womenkind gets it. rethink focus, rethink content, rethink adding value, #editorchat

[21:24:26] JOHNABYRNE: There will be many Born to the Web enterprises over the next few years that will teach the mainstream media a thing or two. #editorchat

[21:24:52] hriefs: @JOHNABYRNE In your estimation, what went wrong with the Chicago-focused edition of BW that had a short life? #editorchat

[21:24:55] tweditor: I look forward to the Dallas Morning News’ first tweet of the day. But not because it’s the DMN. I love it ‘cuz it’s snarky. #editorchat

[21:25:04] Dark_Faust: @jimmcbee I worry that the average person will have less avenues to truthful reporting. That politicans and big bus take over. #editorchat

[21:25:04] PDXsays: @RBLevin yes.. recall those.. ur correct, sir #editorchat

[21:25:14] MightyCasey: @kristoforlawson breaking news is best left to vid outlets – I look for more flavor from print. Plain burger vs. porterhouse #editorchat

[21:25:16] StevePR104: Question: if AP exists through subscription fees, those fees aren’t paid, what happens to AP? And what happens to coverage? #editorchat

[21:25:16] jennipps: @fixin2 “Retworting” is better. 🙂 #editorchat

[21:25:20] pontific8: I hope he’s right: RT @JOHNABYRNE I think hyper-local sites have a good future and that should mean more community journalism. #editorchat

[21:25:18] JOHNABYRNE: You already have a good group of them, showing us the way from the HuffPo to GigaOm to Drudge, TechCrunch, GreenBiz, Politico. #editorchat

[21:25:19] malouie: RT @JOHNABYRNE It’s a very different competitive world. #editorchat (agree, you’ve a great web/print balance at BusinessWeek)

[21:25:22] fixin2: How do we change the mindsets of those who don’t quite get where we’re headed? #editorchat

[21:25:26] jimmcbee: rt @JOHNABYRNE There will be many Born to the Web enterprises over the next few years that will teach the msm a thing or 2 #editorchat

[21:25:27] jenandtheart: @PDXsays I think this is exactly the place for this debate. This is unsolved b/c the editorial heirarchy is based on age #editorchat

[21:25:29] littlebrownpen: @RBLevin Agree. My first job out of college in 1999 was as a “community builder.” Goal? Increase page views and drive traffic. #editorchat

[21:25:32] winequester: @JOHNABYRNE It would be a step in the right direction for you to figure out that other media is available for editorials. #editorchat

[21:25:41] BeckyDMBR: @womenkind There were plenty of voices out there … just not MSM. #editorchat

[21:25:42] IPStrategist: @JOHNABYRNE Tried 2 cancel NYT home sub recently. Talked out of when given 1/2 price ($13/month) Me: someone has to pay 4 news. #editorchat

[21:25:43] aflyonthewall: RT @jennipps: RT@miltoncontact-most comprehensive tool for bldg community not technology itself but proactive key individuals #editorchat

[21:25:47] milehighfool: Killjoy warning. About six minutes left. Last question and then re-intros and a link if you’d like. #editorchat

[21:25:48] TMFZahrim: @RBLevin Except more public than IRC. No need to login to some server or channel; world is listening #editorchat

[21:25:50] MimiAndelman: I console myself knowing that “news” will never go out of business. Nor “talk,” but that’s another story. #editorchat

[21:25:53] dmac1: @milehighfool @BeckyDMBR Analysis more important than scoop, yes, but also giving reader incentive to seek out your analysis #editorchat

[21:25:53] secretsushi: @StevePR104 agreed. So differentiation is essential. Bloggers cant cover what an established news agency can… yet. #editorchat

[21:25:53] PDXsays: RT: @JOHNABYRNE Many Born to the Web enterprises over the next few years that will teach the mainstream media a thing or two. #editorchat

[21:26:06] JOHNABYRNE: @fixin2 I’m afraid you won’t have to. There time is limited. They’ll be gone before you know it. #editorchat

[21:26:08] AlbertMaruggi: @mitchjoel aggregation path leads us to Netvibes and iGoogle as newspapers, I can make 10 local education widgets a day #editorchat

[21:26:17] jenwakefield: @johnabyrne ask how many people are reading/participating on a smartphone…i am. while at an nba game. #editorchat

[21:26:20] winequester: @winequester Telling me to filter this thread out means I have to learn something on two apps that I don’t need with others. #editorchat

[21:26:24] jenandtheart: New solutions don’t come from the same people or the same questions. And in a failing media economy… #editorchat

[21:26:33] jimmcbee: @Dark_Faust that process has been taking place for awhile. Maybe industry’s convulsions will shake that up. #editorchat

[21:26:34] FromCarl: @JOHNABYRNE Born to the Web will always have a lot to offer. Converts can add insight, too. #editorchat

[21:26:42] LydiaBreakfast: Tweeps we’d like to remind you that this session is nearly over. Tweet rapidly to get your last thoughts in #editorchat

[21:26:55] Dark_Faust: @dmac1 Readers are bombarded online. No filter in place. Look for continuing advances in that area. #editorchat

[21:26:57] leanneclc: What consumers want is smart media – stop dumbing it down. If it’s smart, informative and probative we will pay #editorchat

[21:27:04] JDEbberly: RT @LydiaBreakfast: Tweeps we’d like to remind you that this session is nearly over. Tweet rapidly to get your last thoughts in #editorchat

[21:27:04] MightyCasey: @PDXsays @JOHNABYRNE web enterprises have already completely changed news delivery – the trusted-source piece is their challenge #editorchat

[21:27:23] marciamarcia: New solutions don’t come from the same people or the same questions. And in a failing media economy… via @jenandtheart #editorchat

[21:27:28] AlbertMaruggi: I believe people will pay for content, however I subscribed to Foreign Affairs and Christian Science Monitor, so I’m strange #editorchat

[21:27:28] milehighfool: @dmac1 I think sccops are still massively important. Event-driven breaking news? That’s for the AP, Reuters, Bloomberg. #editorchat

[21:27:29] secretsushi: – @JOHNABYRNE creating community around content is an attractive factors. Fostering discussions. #editorchat

[21:27:40] KathrynHallPR: RT JOHNABYRNE There will b many Born 2 Web enterprises over the next few yrs that will teach the mainstream media a thing or 2. #editorchat

[21:27:44] konadad: RT @leanneclc: What consumers want is smart media – stop dumbing it down. If it’s smart, informative and probative we will pay #editorchat

[21:27:54] PatBitton: Sorry, forgot all about it – too involved in work! #editorchat

[21:27:58] Dark_Faust: @LydiaBreakfast Is that the next stage for Twitter? 140 char limit as well as a 10 sec time limit per tweet? 🙂 #editorchat

[21:28:00] paradisekitten: @MightyCasey very apt food analogy- ha! #editorchat

[21:28:16] shirleybrady: @milehighfool Maybe John could answer any remaining Q’s as add-on to Web transcript? Online extra! 🙂 #editorchat

[21:28:16] littlebrownpen: RT @leanneclc What consumers want is smart media – stop dumbing it down. If it’s smart, informative and probative we will pay #editorchat

[21:28:19] GuaranteedGF: In one window I’m following serious discussion #editorchat, and then that link from the Onion comes in – what a disconnect!

[21:28:30] dmac1: @JOHNABYRNE What better proof of blogs coming of age than Obama’s press conferences, where Politico and others in the mix #editorchat

[21:28:30] RBLevin: @TMFZahrim True. Easier GUI. But no more social than 1988. Social media isn’t new. What’s new is everyone doing it. #editorchat

[21:28:36] JOHNABYRNE: One last thought, unless you have a few last questions. #editorchat

[21:28:37] StevePR104: @AlbertMaruggi but Al, who produces the content? Who checks it for accuracy and content? No answer, jes’ axin. #editorchat

[21:28:37] BeckyDMBR: @milehighfool I have been sorely disappointed in the quality of breaking news from those sources of late. #editorchat

[21:28:39] MightyCasey: @littlebrownpen thanks – haven’t had dinner yet, have food on the brain! #editorchat

[21:28:43] karenauby: @dmac1 I wonder if there is also issues with “facts” in the rush to get a scoop. or maybe just the effect of overworked journos #editorchat

[21:28:43] MimiAndelman: The “Twitterview”? I draw the line. #editorchat

[21:28:51] fixin2: Thanks for letting me jump in the stream tonite, folks! Gotta run! #editorchat

[21:28:53] mobienthusiast: Thanks for the great #editorchat, headed for conference call – pls send me links to your mobile news sites for directory

[21:28:54] AlbertMaruggi: @jenwakefield what’s the score of the game? that’s citizen sports journalism #editorchat

[21:29:01] JOHNABYRNE: Despite all the turmoil and pain, this is an incredibly exhilarating time in journalism. #editorchat

[21:29:06] LydiaBreakfast: Two minute warning tweeps. Re-introduce yourselves and let’s thank our guest. #editorchat

[21:29:12] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: One last thought, unless you have a few last questions. #editorchat

[21:29:23] RBLevin: @laflures How so? I type, others type, I read, others read, scrolling UI. Experience prettier, but functionally the same. #editorchat

[21:29:23] JOHNABYRNE: Never before have journalists had access to so many tools to perform their jobs more creatively than now. #editorchat

[21:29:24] KathrynHallPR: RT @JOHNABYRNE U already have a gd gp of them, showing the way from HuffPo to GigaOm to Drudge, TechCrunch, GreenBiz, Politico. #editorchat

[21:29:25] BeckyDMBR: @milehighfool Readers can get breaking new from Twitter. Follow-up? Verification? That should come from journalists. #editorchat

[21:29:31] LydiaBreakfast: @JOHNABYRNE I agree it is great to be a part of the change. #editorchat

[21:29:39] milehighfool: @shirleybrady Yes. The transcript will be live at editorchat.wordpress.com and we’d be happy to have Q & A there. #editorchat

[21:29:48] MightyCasey: @JOHNABYRNE that’s why BW.com is such a great destination for biz news – you’re embracing it rather than whining! #editorchat

[21:29:49] rauch22: RT @JOHNABYRNE Despite all the turmoil and pain, this is an incredibly exhilarating time in journalism. #editorchat

[21:29:52] JOHNABYRNE: Never before have journalists had the advantage of having their own printing presses to do their own thing. #editorchat

[21:29:53] jennipps: RT @JOHNABYRNE Despite all the turmoil and pain, this is an incredibly exhilarating time in journalism. #editorchat

[21:30:00] DoreenatDMS: @JOHNABYRNE i joined here too late; but will read feed; glad you mentioned the word *journalism* #editorchat

[21:30:01] PDXsays: @jenandtheart ur behind the times a bit… welcome to Obama Country #editorchat

[21:30:04] AlbertMaruggi: @StevePR104 you are right, it is a labor intensive effort. A good editor saves a poor journalist’s butt every time #editorchat

[21:30:08] BeckyDMBR: @dmac1 Yeah, that was interesting, wasn’t it? Funny thing for me? Not so many female faces in the crowd. Was it just me? #editorchat

[21:30:12] JOHNABYRNE: We spent too much time whining about the changes out there and not enough time taking advantage of new opportunities. #editorchat

[21:30:15] TMFZahrim: Anders Bylund, Motley Fool and Ars Technica writer. Great chat tonight, thanks @JOHNABYRNE and gang #editorchat

[21:30:18] MimiAndelman: Good one. Optimistic. Thanks @JOHNABYRNE #editorchat

[21:30:19] JDEbberly: I’m JD Ebberly and I heartily thank you very much for all your insights, John Byrne. I am very grateful! #editorchat

[21:30:28] fixin2: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Despite all the turmoil and pain, this is an incredibly exhilarating time in journalism. #editorchat // I totally agree!

[21:30:28] knitnrun: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Never before have journalists had access to so many tools to perform their jobs more creatively than now. #editorchat

[21:30:38] dmac1: @Dark_Faust For filters, check out what Gabe Rivera is doing. If he builds a Techmeme for general news, I might not buy the NYT #editorchat

[21:30:41] JOHNABYRNE: You can become an entrepreneur. You can engage your readers as true partners. You can change the very nature of journalism. #editorchat

[21:30:43] BeckyDMBR: @JOHNABYRNE Good point. Often it’s put out there for free … but, yeah. There’s the opportunity. #editorchat

[21:30:48] KathrynHallPR: RT @JOHNABYRNE Despite all the turmoil and pain, this is an incredibly exhilarating time in journalism. #editorchat [Go, John!]

[21:30:49] StevePR104: @JOHNABYRNE John, without the means to monetize, it relegates journalism to a passion/hobby. Not a reliable source of news. #editorchat

[21:30:54] chrisgrayson: @JOHNABYRNE – looks a lot like the music industry #editorchat

[21:31:00] katieratcliffe: I’m katie ratcliffe in Japan. also thanks for insights! #editorchat

[21:31:02] marciamarcia: Never before have [any of us] had access to so many tools to perform our jobs more creatively than now. PRT @johnabyrne #editorchat

[21:31:05] JOHNABYRNE: That’s all very exciting and challenging. Opportunity exists when things are growing or when they’re falling apart. #editorchat

[21:31:07] jenandtheart: @PDXsays I’m in Mexico. #editorchat

[21:31:08] jimware: RT @JOHNABYRNE Despite all the turmoil and pain, this is an incredibly exhilarating time in journalism. #editorchat

[21:31:09] Dark_Faust: @JOHNABYRNE Actually, what every household will have in the near future is a print press to download RSSs and print w coffee. #editorchat

[21:31:10] eclisham: Elaine Clisham, Newspaper Next evangelist. Thanks for the great discussion! #editorchat.

[21:31:11] MightyCasey: wow – used Tweetchat for the first time tonite for #editorchat. Sorry I didn’t use it before!!

[21:31:19] rachelcw: hates getting home late on Wednesdays and missing #editorchat

[21:31:22] jennipps: Re-intro: Jen, fl writer in S Oklahoma, spec. in writing, creativity, freelancing, & plus-size issues. Writer @ TutorialBlog.org #editorchat

[21:31:22] milehighfool: @JOHNABYRNE Agreed. Tough as it is out there, it may be a great time to be a freelancer. Good ideas sell. #editorchat

[21:31:28] secretsushi: Retweeting @JOHNABYRNE: Never before have journalists had access to so many tools to perform their jobs more creatively than now #editorchat

[21:31:29] LDinSTL_Chimera: @johnabyrne How many major editors tweet like you do–interactively? #editorchat

[21:31:30] JDEbberly: Also like to express my thankful gratitude to @LydiaBreakfast and @milehighfool and everyone for this educational chat. #editorchat

[21:31:31] jimmcbee: Thx to @JOHNABYRNE for rollicking good convo from Jim McBee: http://smartnewsnc.com We have freelance content to sell. #editorchat

[21:31:37] secretsushi: Retweeting @JOHNABYRNE: Despite all the turmoil and pain, this is an incredibly exhilarating time in journalism. #editorchat

[21:31:36] shirleybrady: @milehighfool Got it, thx, Tim: please email any add’l Q’s to John after this; great chat + ideas from all! #editorchat

[21:31:44] marciamarcia: Opportunity exists when things are growing or when they’re falling apart. via @johnabyrne #editorchat

[21:31:45] jeffkart: @JOHNABYRNE good conversation. thanks for starting (if you did) #editorchat

[21:31:50] CRBJ: @JOHNABYRNE That’s well said. I’m pinning those comments to our newsroom wall. #editorchat

[21:31:51] jennipps: @MightyCasey I love Tweetchat. 🙂 #editorchat

[21:32:06] milehighfool: RT @JOHNABYRNE Opportunity exists when things are growing or when they’re falling apart. #editorchat

[21:32:04] Willowbottom: Thanks very much @Johnabyrne for the fantastic conversation. Very much enjoyed it. #editorchat

[21:32:09] littlebrownpen: @milehighfool We need to figure out a better system for connecting good writers and good editors, no? #editorchat

[21:32:10] seanmj: Sean Johnson, TA for magazine editing classes at BYU. Lots of good insights tonight to share with students. Thanks. #editorchat #editorchat

[21:32:16] kristoforlawson: one day we will wake up, check news online, watch tv for the same content, go buy a paper and wonder why. ohh thats today.. #editorchat

[21:32:18] leanneclc: Really great discussion and nice group to meet tonight. Thanks @johnabyrne and #editorchat

[21:32:24] littlebrownpen: RT @JOHNABYRNE Opportunity exists when things are growing or when they’re falling apart. #editorchat

[21:32:34] jennipps: @JOHNABYRNE Thank you for being here and holding a very interesting conversation. #editorchat

[21:32:43] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE Opportunity exists when things are growing or when they’re falling apart. #editorchat

[21:32:47] bob_bobala: Bob Bobala, former editor-in-chief of The Motley Fool and editorial director at Intuit. Thanks for the chat tonight. See ya soon #editorchat

[21:32:50] JOHNABYRNE: @littlebrownpen Yes! #editorchat

[21:32:52] kristoforlawson: @JOHNABYRNE – all it takes is people with a vision for how the industry must progress. #editorchat

[21:32:58] suntimessports: Thanks for the interesting discussion, #editorchat – Craig Newman at the Chicago Sun-Times (@suntimes) here. Look forward to next chat.

[21:33:04] milehighfool: So, tweeps, reminder: if you have additonal questions send them to me or @LydiaBreakfast. Thanks much. #editorchat

[21:33:08] PDXsays: I *love* you guys… thanks for being who you are #editorchat

[21:33:10] pattyhuntington: RT @JOHNABYRNE: You can’t expect to be paid for commoditized journalism. How many Madoff pleads guilty stories can anyone read. #editorchat

[21:33:17] DoreenatDMS: via @JOHNABYRNE: Never..have journalists had advtge of having theirown printg presses 2 do theirownthing #editorchat (distributionchannel 2)

[21:33:21] JOHNABYRNE: Thanks everyone for joining tonight. I’m off to the gym. #editorchat

[21:33:24] a2editor: Re-intro: Laura Cowan, freelance editor and writer working in book publishing and automotive media. Nice to see you all! #editorchat

[21:33:31] edwardboches: let’s hope we figure it out. the world needs great journalists, great editors and great content #editorchat

[21:33:44] George_Williams: @JOHNABYRNE #editorchat Why not combine the authoritative content with solid local SEO and really help local businesses – get business. more

[21:33:53] kristoforlawson: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Opportunity exists when things are growing or when they’re falling apart. #editorchat

[21:33:58] milehighfool: @JOHNABYRNE Thanks very much, John. Great chat tonight. #editorchat

[21:34:00] LydiaBreakfast: @JOHNABYRNE Thanks so much John. #editorchat

[21:34:02] littlebrownpen: @JOHNABYRNE Well, perhaps there’s a business opportunity in there somewhere. Thanks for the great chat! #editorchat

[21:34:10] AlbertMaruggi: great conversation John, see you on blipFM :>) #editorchat

[21:34:10] lancegodard: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Never before have journalists had the advantage of having their own printing presses to do their own thing. #editorchat

[21:34:14] pontific8: @JOHNABYRNE enjoyed your side of this chat. Were there any other sides? Seemed more like a monologue than an #editorchat – very few @s.

[21:34:27] knitnrun: RT @Dark_Faust Actually, what every household will have in the near future is a print press to download RSSs & print w coffee #editorchat

[21:34:30] BeckyDMBR: @JOHNABYRNE Thanks for the chat tonight! #editorchat

[21:34:37] seanmj: Thanks @JOHNABYRNE #editorchat

[21:34:42] jenandtheart: Jennifer Leslie. On a 2up 1976 motorcycle speeding through the universe to Argentina; a blogger. #editorchat

[21:34:48] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Never before have journalists had the advantage of having their own printing presses to do their own thing #editorchat

[21:35:06] George_Williams: @JOHNABYRNE #editorchat And I don’t mean from only the newspaper site. @mitchjoel you can see where I’m headed with this.

[21:35:09] jenandtheart: @JOHNABYRNE Thanks for the sagely Yoda advice. #editorchat

[21:35:26] jennipps: Quite an interesting #editorchat tonight. Check my favorites & retweets for some of the highlights if you missed it.

[21:35:28] KathrynHallPR: RT @JOHNABYRNE That’s all very exciting and challenging. Opportunity exists when things are growing or when falling apart. #editorchat

[21:35:36] paradisekitten: ‘Neither fish nor fowl said the wise old owl could love you any more than I do’–editorchat, tweetchat and the {{{FUTURE}}} #editorchat

[21:35:40] StevePR104: @AlbertMaruggi and in the NWO, who will edit the bloggers/tweeters? Who will provide the perspective? That scares me. #editorchat

[21:35:43] BeckyDMBR: @milehighfool As always, thanks to you and @LydiaBreakfast! #editorchat

[21:35:44] ATLCheap: Re-intro: Jennifer Maciejewski, ATL-based writer & blogger. Experimenting w/ entreprenuerial journalism w/ CitiesOnTheCheap.com #editorchat

[21:35:57] journalistics: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Despite all the turmoil and pain, this is an incredibly exhilarating time in journalism. #editorchat

[21:35:57] jenwakefield: @albertmaruggi 61 v 48 magic! 6 left in q3 #editorchat

[21:36:00] cArtPhotography: @JOHNABYRNE I enjoyed listening / reading you. Thanks. #editorchat

[21:36:10] konadad: @JOHNABRYNE Thanks, John. Wish more eds-in-chief were as accessible as you. #editorchat

[21:36:10] calvin_s: RT @JOHNABYRNE: You can’t expect to be paid for commoditized journalism. How many Madoff pleads guilty stories can anyone read. #editorchat

[21:36:32] GinaLaGuardia: RT @edwardboches: let’s hope we figure it out. the world needs great journalists, great editors and great content #editorchat

[21:36:32] secretsushi: RT @JOHNABYRNE: You can’t expect to be paid for commoditized journalism. How many Madoff pleads guilty stories can anyone read. #editorchat

[21:36:34] lolmarkwell: RT @kristoforlawson: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Opportunity exists when things are growing or when they’re falling apart. #editorchat

[21:36:36] ATLCheap: “entrepreneurial” even, sheesh. #editorchat

[21:36:36] shirleybrady: @pontific8 This went fast! Perhaps John can respond to individual points in the follow-up transcript for the #editorchat blog?

[21:36:40] kristoforlawson: thanks for the chat everyone!! Love to see how journalism needs to change, now we just need to be the change. #editorchat

[21:36:41] JDEbberly: RT @konadad: @JOHNABRYNE Thanks, John. Wish more eds-in-chief were as accessible as you. #editorchat

[21:36:48] LydiaBreakfast: Tweeps, if you want to send questions to John send to me or @milehighfool #editorchat

[21:36:48] milehighfool: Thanks for joining. Tim Beyers, Motley Fool tech contributor, co-founder of this weekly chat with @LydiaBreakfast. #editorchat

[21:36:52] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Despite all the turmoil and pain, this is an incredibly exhilarating time in journalism. #editorchat

[21:37:26] secretsushi: @JOHNABYRNE commodities journalism. Thats a great term to remember. As w/ any biz… differentiation s key. #editorchat

[21:37:26] LydiaBreakfast: Transcript of the chat will be available tomorrow at editorchat.wordpress.com #editorchat

[21:37:32] GinaLaGuardia: @JOHNABYRNE Amazing commentary tonight. Thank you very much! #editorchat

[21:37:33] AYoungOne: @sonnygill great. was able to follow @johnbyrne and get some great info re: jour. biz. #editorchat

[21:37:40] ThomScott: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Never before have journalists had the advantage of having their own printing presses to do their own thing. #editorchat

[21:37:43] Dark_Faust: It’s interesting to parallel the collapse/transition of journs with a similar process taking place at universities. #editorchat

[21:37:57] JDEbberly: RT @LydiaBreakfast: Transcript of the chat will be available tomorrow at editorchat.wordpress.com #editorchat

[21:38:02] littlebrownpen: Night everyone. Nichole Robertson, freelance writer, Copy Director #editorchat

[21:38:20] LydiaBreakfast: Thanls for coming everyone Lydia Dishman, Freelance journalist co-founder of #editorchat #editorchat

[21:38:34] shirleybrady: @milehighfool @lydiabreakfast & everyone on #editorchat (incl. my BW tweeps who popped by) – really enjoyed, to be continued! Thank you. 🙂

[21:38:50] Dark_Faust: Not sure that the online phenomena will give back as much as it takes. But the genie is out of the bottle, so a moot point. #editorchat

[21:39:08] AlbertMaruggi: @jenwakefield Ok and who are the Magic playing? just being an editor here how appropriate :>) #editorchat

[21:39:13] JDEbberly: May be able to read some of the transcript here http://twemes.com/editorchat #editorchat

[21:39:16] SCM64: Is just watching, new to this – need a study guide! #editorchat

[21:39:58] DoreenatDMS: RT @JDEbberly: May be able to read some of the transcript here http://twemes.com/editorchat #editorchat

[21:40:12] Dark_Faust: @MaryKnudson Wow. Thats a good question. Since I’m not in the newspaper bus, I really don’t know. #editorchat

[21:40:18] anndouglas: @LydiaBreakfast Thanks very much, Lydia & Tim. Another terrific event! Great that John could join us. #editorchat

[21:40:28] digiphile: @milehighfool Thanks to you and @JohnABryne for the live Q&A tonight on #digitaljournalism |https://editorchat.wordpress.com #editorchat

[21:40:45] MaryKnudson: MaryKnudson@Dark_Faust OK for news operations 2 b run by non profit orgs but not OK for nwspaprs 2 become NP for ethics reasns? #editorchat

[21:41:20] secretsushi: Retweeting @LydiaBreakfast: Transcript of the chat will be available tomorrow at editorchat.wordpress.com #editorchat

[21:41:27] sbasista: @JOHNABYRNE I wasn’t part of #editorchat, but i thought your insight was so interesting

[21:42:11] LydiaBreakfast: If you want to continue the discussion head over to the blog at editorchat.wordpress.com ask a question, comment, keep talking. #editorchat

[21:42:29] PDXsays: @littlebrownpen glad to have found you to follow #editorchat

[21:42:57] PDXsays: @LydiaBreakfast Glad to have found you to follow #editorchat

[21:42:58] paulTbanks: hey everybody, i have a question: what’s this #editorchat thing? any info? thanks!

[21:43:01] hotspringer: RT @LydiaBreakfast: Transcript of tonight’s chat will be available tomorrow at editorchat.wordpress.com #editorchat

[21:43:04] kishizuka: Perusing #editorchat.

[21:43:33] seanmj: RT @JOHNABYRNE Never before have journalists had access to so many tools to perform their jobs more creatively than now. #editorchat

[21:43:38] VMaryAbraham: @marciamarcia So then, where do the new solutions come from? Is it just serendipity? Or is there a method we can follow? #editorchat

[21:43:38] LydiaBreakfast: @PDXsays Thanks! Glad you joined us 🙂 #editorchat

[21:43:53] LydiaBreakfast: @paulTbanks editorchat.wordpress.com for info #editorchat

[21:44:22] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE Never before have journalists had access to so many tools to perform their jobs more creatively than now. #editorchat

[21:44:50] lisasepiphany: RT @JOHNABYRNE: newspapers and magazines #editorchat… change will happen, necessarily & drastically, w/an eye to preservation & heritage..

[21:45:17] VMaryAbraham: @JOHNABYRNE But it takes an unusual person to see opportunity in the midst of turmoil. #editorchat

[21:46:02] dkemper: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Never before have journalists had access to so many tools to perform their jobs more creatively than now. #editorchat

[21:46:51] JDEbberly: @JOHNABYRNE But it takes an unusual person to see opportunity in the midst of turmoil. #editorchat

[21:46:58] lisasepiphany: RT @JOHNABYRNE: 3) Subscribers will generally not pay for content…. #editorchat… I disagree, they will pay to support an institution…

[21:47:08] jenwakefield: @lydiabreakfast awesome job on #editorchat

[21:47:18] lisasepiphany: RT @JOHNABYRNE: The upshot: Nothing less than radical transformation is necessary to succeed in the future. #editorchat… absolutely!

[21:47:45] TMFZahrim: #editorchat Summary of the users who submitted the last 500 posts tonight, FWIW: http://dintur.net/editorchat.html

[21:48:02] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE: The upshot: Nothing less than radical transformation is necessary to succeed in the future. #editorchat

[21:48:12] lisasepiphany: RT @JOHNABYRNE: So they cling to the hope that print advertising will come back. #editorchat… print is not lost, I believe in preservation
[21:48:33] jasonaverbook: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Ultimately, I think local newspapers can only largely survive if they become local Googles. #editorchat

[21:48:55] lisasepiphany: RT @JOHNABYRNE: He maintains that within three years, there will be a media boom. #editorchat… there is a current & continual ‘media boom’

[21:50:57] VMaryAbraham: @amandachapel If so, let’s hope there are lots of drunks and fools to lead us out of the economic quagmire. #editorchat

[21:51:34] lisasepiphany: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Right now, though, it’s hard to imagine us having a media boom… #editorchat there is a way for all modes to exist toge …

[21:51:38] BetsyHubbard: Great discussion on #editorchat tonight . Featured guest @JOHNABYRNE , ed of BusinessWeek.com (hence all my RTs) @OSUKips

[21:53:07] JDEbberly: RT @JOHNABYRNE print’ll die in near future, we wont have paper. We’ll have a thin, flexible LCD, wireless, and can write on it. #editorchat

[21:54:31] monicagagnier: What’s great about @johnbyrne‘s tweets is they’re so honest. Did you catch his #editorchat? Many managers aren’t being authentic on Twitter

[21:55:04] JDEbberly: This has been Editorchat on 3.25.09 with @JohnAByrne as guest. It was one of the best Editorchats ever! 🙂 #editorchat

[21:55:28] paulTbanks: @LydiaBreakfast thanks. intriguing discussion. #editorchat

[21:55:54] VMaryAbraham: @amandachapel Nope, it was garden-variety greedy humans who thought they were masters of the universe who led us into this mess.#editorchat

[21:57:13] wingspouse: Got in late. I write on topics for executive wives and other women’s topics. #editorchat

[21:57:44] fredneil2: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Never before have journalists had access to so many tools to perform their jobs more creatively than now. #editorchat

[21:58:16] jtlongandco: @JDEbberly RT This has been Editorchat on 3.25.09 with @JohnAByrne as guest. It was one of the best Editorchats ever! 🙂 #editorchat

[21:59:43] George_Williams: #editorchat How fast do you think businesses would run to advertise in the newspaper if it could produce measurable results for them? Zoom!

[22:08:33] lisasepiphany: RT @JOHNABYRNE: You can become an entrepreneur. You can engage your readers as true partners. … . #editorchat… can & WILL

[22:09:37] lyricessence: RT @JOHNABYRNE: 3) Subscribers will generally not pay for content unless it’s original, unique value-added. #editorchat

[22:10:46] lyricessence: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Problem is, most people in media cling to those three absolutes as if they are white lies and don’t change. #editorchat

[22:10:50] lyricessence: RT @JOHNABYRNE: So they cling to the hope that print advertising will come back. #editorchat

[22:12:26] lisasepiphany: RT @JOHNABYRNE: You can’t expect to be paid for commoditized journalism. #editorchat indeed, you need to bring passion & news, meaning ‘new’

[22:13:04] lyricessence: RT @JOHNABYRNE: Transformation is really hard and painful. That’s why a lot of players aren’t going to make it. #editorchat

[22:14:24] shotgunconcepts: synopsis of my thoughts for #editorchat http://tinyurl.com/d9tbwo @JOHNABYRNE

[22:17:13] lyricessence: @amandachapel this came from @JOHNABYRNE #editorchat

[22:23:38] Gents: @JOHNABYRNE Is there some way to string these responses together? Lost of good stuff here I’d like to read in depth. #editorchat

[22:27:04] lisasepiphany: RT@amandachapel:@lisasepiphany “@JOHNABYRNE You can become an entrepreneur #editorchat” U can & WILL be poor-what is it that YOU’re selling?

[22:38:14] dodgemedlin: @gents Two options: search.twitter.com, search for #editorchat. Or (probably better) go to http://tweetchat.com/room/editorchat

[22:41:12] JDEbberly: RT @dodgemedlin: @gents Two options: search.twitter.com, search for #editorchat. Or (probably better) go to http://tweetchat.com/room/ed

[22:42:09] RUSEthemagazine: Enjoying the chat in #editorchat … good stuff

[22:42:18] JDEbberly: Regarding my last transmission, the room to go to is http://tweetchat.com/room/editorchat #editorchat

[22:42:21] mitchjoel: Do you think journalists have what it takes to make the digital transition? Add your thoughts here: http://is.gd/oZTJ (#editorchat)

[22:42:38] chuckdensinger: Kudos to BW’s @JOHNABYRNE for his #editorchat forums. Brilliant use of Twitter.

[22:46:08] MelyMello: Yes please! RT@edwardboches: let’s hope we figure it out. the world needs great journalists, great editors and great content #editorchat

[22:46:46] evelynso: RT @mitchjoel: Do u think journalists have what it takes to make the digital transition? Add thoughts here: http://is.gd/oZTJ (#editorchat)

[22:55:37] maragulens: RT @mitchjoel Do… journalists have what it takes to make the digital transition? … http://is.gd/oZTJ (#editorchat)

#editorchat

Written by LydiaBreakfast

March 27, 2009 at 2:52 am

NEWS: John Byrne of BusinessWeek to guest host Editorchat

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We are thrilled to announce that John Byrne, Executive Editor, BusinessWeek and Editor-in-Chief of BusinessWeek.com, will be our very first guest host for #editorchat this Wednesday, March 25, from 8-9:30 pm eastern. More details to come but, in the meantime, see below for John’s bio and mark your calendars. This is the #editorchat you really don’t want to miss.

John A. Byrne Editor-in-Chief of BusinessWeek
John A. Byrne

John A. Byrne is the executive editor and editor-in-chief of BusinessWeek.com. In this role, Mr. Byrne is responsible for the editorial operations of BusinessWeek.com and guides the further integration and collaboration between the print and online editorial staffs. Prior to this, he was the executive editor for the print publication since 2005.

Previously, Mr. Byrne was editor-in-chief of Fast Company magazine. He joined Fast Company in April 2003, succeeding founding editors Alan Webber and Bill Taylor, where he worked to reinvent the business magazine. Before joining Fast Company, he worked for BusinessWeek for nearly 18 years, most recently holding the position of Senior Writer and writing a record 57 cover stories for the magazine. His articles have explored the fairness of executive pay, the folly of management fads, and the governance of major corporations. Mr. Byrne developed the idea of a monthly best-sellers list and launched annual editorial franchises including the industry-leading business school rankings, the best and worst corporate boards, and BusinessWeek’s yearly ranking of the most generous philanthropists.

Mr. Byrne is the author of eight books on business, leadership, and management. His latest book, published Sept. 11, 2001 by Warner Books, is Jack: Straight from the Gut, his highly anticipated collaboration with former General Electric Co. CEO Jack Welch. The book debuted at the very top of The New York Times bestseller list. Byrne has written or co-authored seven other books, including Chainsaw (HarperCollins, 1999), the behind-the-scenes story of Al Dunlap’s rise and fall as a business celebrity. The book received widespread acclaim. Publishers Weekly called the book a “blistering saga” and a “sizzling tale.” The Street.com said Chainsaw “should be required reading in all business and accounting schools.”

Byrne’s other books include: Informed Consent (McGraw-Hill, 1995); The Headhunters (MacMillan, 1986); Odyssey (Harper & Row, 1987), the business biography of former Apple Computer chairman John Sculley; and The Whiz Kids (Currency/Doubleday, 1993), which explored the life and times of ten Army Air Force officers who helped to remake the Ford Motor Co. in the post-war period. Managment guru Tom Peters called the book “an important milestone in American management analysis. Warren Bennis has said the book is “the best history of American business from World War II to the present.” Byrne also wrote BusinessWeek’s Guide to the Best Business Schools (McGraw-Hill, 1989, 1990, 1993, 1995, and 1997) and co-wrote BusinessWeek’s Guide to the Best Executive Education Programs (McGraw-Hill, 1992).

Mr. Byrne has a master’s in journalism from the University of Missouri and an undergraduate degree in English and political science from William Paterson College.

Written by LydiaBreakfast

March 24, 2009 at 9:38 pm